well Americans are already more open to socialism, millennials actually preferring it outright to capitalism

@Sorghagtani Beki The bourgeois class won't allow that to happen.

In case you haven't noticed, they control the whole government.

Public consensus is more powerful than any bourgeois

That's actually, objectively wrong.

The EU will never be able to take away the social benefits they give

Sorry, I know I sound like an asshole. But it's wrong.

attempting to do so would cost any politician their political influence

You live in ideology wonderland.

If we're talking about the US, public opinion has little to no influence on policy. Business interest groups and billionaires have all the control over public policy, oftentimes writing it themselves and handing it directly to a legislator.

likewise in America, any politician trying to repeal the ACC would be ruined

when the people experience a better society, they will never give it up

Firstly, the Democrats take bribes from the same donors that the Republicans do, for the most part, with some differences.

Secondly, any reforms inevitably get repealed or watered-down.

I do not think the ACC will ever be repealed

Stop talking and start reading.

I mean look at the NHS in England. The Labor Government did that, now Labour is fucked and the NHS is constantly having crises because of the Tories who have been in power for a long ass time now.

No politician would be able to do it without costing his or her political influence

and they need to be wary about elections every few years

In the US, the Electoral College already gives an advantage to the Republicans, and even if a Democrat were to win most of them are neoliberals and trying to get any, even small policy changes that are progressive will be a nightmare.

Even if bernie had won a lot of his policies would've been sabotaged by his own damn party.

yet even the Tories cannot remove the basics of the NHS

This is all irrelevant because none of it is pertinent to workers getting the full value of their labor anyway 😜

no matter what they try

@Sorghagtani Beki There's already been subtle privatization

They're able to defund certain parts of it and generate crises to convince the public that there has to be more spending cuts to compensate.

You mean how Trump changes policy every week. The people tolerate anything.

People are actually very critical of him

minus his supporters

For God's sake Sub we have a president who won the election with millions of less votes than his opponent.

they keep backing him for some reason

I think it's stubbornness

If Hillary had won we'd still have plenty of the problems we're having with Trump.

So you just contradicted yourself.

She wanted to overthrow Assad

She doesnt give a shit about single-payer

Trump is the least liked president in US history

she doesn't want free uni education

hillary is a neoliberal

what do you expect

@Sorghagtani Beki Hillary's approval ratings weren't far behind