Message from @Deleted User

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2017-05-24 07:52:02 UTC  

simply because of anti communism in America

2017-05-24 07:52:07 UTC  

so it is best to do it subtly

2017-05-24 07:52:08 UTC  

The overwhelming majority of people would benefit

2017-05-24 07:52:17 UTC  

That's why you just call yourself a socialist.

2017-05-24 07:52:21 UTC  

overwhelming majority would tune me out

2017-05-24 07:52:33 UTC  

Then by the time people have been brought to your side they will find out for themselves

2017-05-24 07:52:37 UTC  

they won't

2017-05-24 07:52:41 UTC  

Yes

2017-05-24 07:52:42 UTC  

they will only be brought to the left subtly

2017-05-24 07:52:42 UTC  

they would

2017-05-24 07:52:47 UTC  

That's not true at all

2017-05-24 07:52:48 UTC  

most Americans will not

2017-05-24 07:52:57 UTC  

Do you live in America?

2017-05-24 07:52:57 UTC  

Because you have to raise class consciousness

2017-05-24 07:53:00 UTC  

Yes.

2017-05-24 07:53:09 UTC  

communism is looked with similar distaste to nazism by many people

2017-05-24 07:53:16 UTC  

That's rapidly changing.

2017-05-24 07:53:24 UTC  

How can you influence people if most people would think you were an idiot?

2017-05-24 07:53:39 UTC  

Instead, if you argue for universal coverage, you bring people to the left, albeit subtly

2017-05-24 07:53:46 UTC  

and then it is easier to argue from that vantage point

2017-05-24 07:53:51 UTC  

Most people wouldn't think so if you explained your position like a rational human being and if you advocate for policies like single payer or free tuition.

2017-05-24 07:54:05 UTC  

I would argue now more than ever is the right time to promote communism.

2017-05-24 07:54:12 UTC  

People already are extremely distrustful of the mainstream media

2017-05-24 07:54:30 UTC  

You know, that is true. But it should be done peacefully

2017-05-24 07:54:30 UTC  

so if they already distrust the media, then it's easy to convince them that they've been lied to (they have been) by the bourgeois government.

2017-05-24 07:54:39 UTC  

so that communists look better than the far right right now

2017-05-24 07:54:44 UTC  

The capitalists are not peaceful

2017-05-24 07:54:46 UTC  

who is also taking the opportunity to spread rhetoric

2017-05-24 07:54:51 UTC  

they use the state apparatus to crush dissent.

2017-05-24 07:55:02 UTC  

If ANTIFA went out to feed homeless, how many more supporters would they gain?

2017-05-24 07:55:03 UTC  

They coerce people to sell their labor power to them.

2017-05-24 07:55:08 UTC  

Night chat is best chat.

2017-05-24 07:55:09 UTC  

Probably a lot.

2017-05-24 07:55:15 UTC  

Then they should focus on that

2017-05-24 07:55:21 UTC  

The thing about Antifa is that Antifa =/= all communists

2017-05-24 07:55:23 UTC  

good PR

2017-05-24 07:55:25 UTC  

they're mostly anarchists

2017-05-24 07:55:30 UTC  

which, as you know, like to smash things.

2017-05-24 07:55:38 UTC  

which looks bad for the left

2017-05-24 07:55:53 UTC  

but yes, I agree that talking about communism should increase

2017-05-24 07:55:57 UTC  

A Leninist party could present itself as better organized (we are) and smarter in how we agitate (we are).