Message from @Sorghagtani Beki

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2017-05-24 07:59:15 UTC  

to quote marx

2017-05-24 07:59:46 UTC  

I think America would be one of the harder areas for communism to grow

2017-05-24 07:59:55 UTC  

Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in
power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism,
against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?
Two things result from this fact:
I. Communism is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a
power.
II. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world,
publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the
Spectre of Communism with a manifesto of the party itself.

2017-05-24 08:00:29 UTC  

American culture really emphasizes moving up in the social order

2017-05-24 08:00:53 UTC  

It also emphasizes freedom

2017-05-24 08:01:02 UTC  

We could use that to our advantage.

2017-05-24 08:01:19 UTC  

Highlight how socialism gives the individual infinitely more freedom than capitalism.

2017-05-24 08:01:19 UTC  

Americans also really hate taxes

2017-05-24 08:01:41 UTC  

In a socialist system there would be barely any, if any at all, income taxes for most people.

2017-05-24 08:02:12 UTC  

Because profits, instead of going to one person at the top, is usually redistributed to fund the programs that workers would have to pay for in taxes under capitalism.

2017-05-24 08:02:14 UTC  

That would be a point to be emphasized, because many Americans associate socialism with heavy taxation

2017-05-24 08:02:21 UTC  

Exactly.

2017-05-24 08:02:32 UTC  

Because many americans think socialism = the government funds/does stuff

2017-05-24 08:02:41 UTC  

Cenk Uygurism

2017-05-24 08:02:47 UTC  

Ancaps often talk about bureaucratic inefficiency in an extremely centralized state

2017-05-24 08:03:06 UTC  

watch this it's funny

2017-05-24 08:03:08 UTC  

Uphold Cenk Uygurist thought

2017-05-24 08:03:17 UTC  

if you want to argue with them

2017-05-24 08:03:21 UTC  

they have their own discord

2017-05-24 08:03:45 UTC  

who does

2017-05-24 08:03:53 UTC  

anarcho capitalists

2017-05-24 08:03:56 UTC  

LOL

2017-05-24 08:03:58 UTC  

no thanks

2017-05-24 08:04:01 UTC  

I thought you meant

2017-05-24 08:04:04 UTC  

The Young Turks

2017-05-24 08:04:07 UTC  

lol

2017-05-24 08:04:10 UTC  

I was about to be up in there

2017-05-24 08:04:23 UTC  

Ancaps aren't worth your time, honestly

2017-05-24 08:04:38 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki do they exploit each other in that discord?

2017-05-24 08:04:53 UTC  

they believe there should not be legislated morality

2017-05-24 08:04:59 UTC  

that's basically the keystone of what they believe

2017-05-24 08:05:46 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki but proletariat needs its dictatorship.

2017-05-24 08:06:07 UTC  

their beliefs really center around two ideals

2017-05-24 08:06:11 UTC  

1. no legislated morality

2017-05-24 08:06:19 UTC  

2. non aggression principle

2017-05-24 08:06:36 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki they don't believe in proletariat dictatorship?

2017-05-24 08:06:41 UTC  

No

2017-05-24 08:06:53 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki are they enemies of proletariat?

2017-05-24 08:07:06 UTC  

Cenk's dialectics are the best