Message from @Dirty Red
Discord ID: 316865662108827649
Just lookin to try spread class consciousness to people i work with
always encourage union membership, comrade
Socialist Alliance from what I've seen aint HARD LEFT
And according to some, the unions over here don't do shit.
@Dirty Red join the organization, they will share experience with you.
Planning to join CPA
Organization is better than no organization.
Tru tru
I prioritize wide-spread class consciousness tho
eventually leads to larger organisations
But that in itself if hard due to political apathy
@Dirty Red how does it lead to larger organizations?
1. People see the bullshit the bourgeoisie do
2. Said people feel outraged
3. People then seek to fight the upper class
4. They organise
What if said people are fucked by the capitalists after the rage? Like in Ukraine.
Like in Egypt.
Like in Lybia
Rage at the capitalists will eventually be bad for the capitalists no?
@Dirty Red Not sure. Oligarchy rules Ukraine now openly.
I guess same logic applies
1. People see the bullshit the oligarchs do
2. Said people feel outraged
Etc
No, when they feel outraged they vote Trump
or Putin
Interesting
Oligarhs
If they really had class consciousness they would see putin or trump are the oligarchs
thus see them as dickheads
But they don't.
Without organization they won't.
Without the Party.
So then it seems dialectics has one it's job.
Class consciousness and organization must both happen
One doesn't directly lead to the other
or that the outcome would benefit the people
Organization directly lead to the class consciousness.
Not nessecarily