Message from @OF-8

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OF-8
2017-05-25 00:57:55 UTC  

you dont get to change the decision making method of evolution

Deleted User
2017-05-25 00:58:19 UTC  

Ah, that's true. But you can manipulate genetics.

OF-8
2017-05-25 00:58:27 UTC  

It is vastly unwise to do so.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 00:58:37 UTC  

Do you have a good reason not to?

OF-8
2017-05-25 00:59:43 UTC  

It's at once too complex and too misunderstood to apply with any certainty of outcome.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:00:04 UTC  

We will probably disagree here, but i've worked in genomics for a while now.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:00:16 UTC  

and while i ought not to appeal to authority

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:00:45 UTC  

or declare myself an expert

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:00:55 UTC  

my personal opinion is a gigantic well researched no

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:01:07 UTC  

But you can understand, 'it's just too complex' is almost verging on luddite tier rebuttal.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:01:23 UTC  

which is my eternal disappointment with the determination

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:01:37 UTC  

i hate that i learned all i did and came away with 'we have no idea'

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:02:08 UTC  

Are you saying genetic research has a low ceiling?

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:03:02 UTC  

@Blebleh Please stop spamming. The grown ups are talking.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:04:19 UTC  

Genetic research is a literal meme.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:04:36 UTC  

You can create a few homunculi, but that's probably about half of what you'll end up with

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:04:55 UTC  

the real manipulation is in proteins, that's the closest control surface we ought to touch

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:05:12 UTC  

simple because genes are not _read only_

Blebleh
2017-05-25 01:05:46 UTC  

You're getting in the game of muh human nature for capitalism

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:05:55 UTC  

ive _BEEN_ in it

Blebleh
2017-05-25 01:06:01 UTC  

when primitive communism and socialism itself worked

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:06:02 UTC  

manipulating human nature for fun and profit

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:06:04 UTC  

thats how i know this shit

Blebleh
2017-05-25 01:06:34 UTC  

whatever you did it doesn't matter, it works

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:06:34 UTC  

@OF-8 That's fantastic but stating your credentials over and over is just wasting space.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:07:03 UTC  

true

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:07:05 UTC  

given

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:07:15 UTC  

i dont have a marxist badge so i feel unfrockd

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:07:18 UTC  

its fine

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:10:32 UTC  

Let's start with really basic practices, like screening unborn cattle for disease, and selective breeding for traits in livestock. Next, genetically modified foods, another common practice. Next, animal cloning and IVF, not really high success rate but successes are successes. Are these things not what you would call progress in genetic research?

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:11:26 UTC  

Not with regard to the need for humans to trade objects of value, fuck no.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:12:48 UTC  

OK, there are two parts here. Modifying humans over time with education and breeding, and outright changing the genome.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:13:18 UTC  

In the later, what are the main problems with genetic research which prevents experimentation with editting?

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:13:27 UTC  

we can try all that uncertain shit, or flood the place with kebab cattle.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:13:54 UTC  

there's lots of experimentation, but the problem comes when the genes are passed to subsequent generations _if_ they make it that far.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:14:11 UTC  

the second generation of a GMO human has retarded high cancer rates

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:15:18 UTC  

It seems like you are saying, 'it's just too hard don't even try'. But why not try? Why is it impossible to progress?

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:15:41 UTC  

its not that it's too hard, but that we'll wreck the bloodlines of those that tru