Message from @Blebleh
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not on a whole species, or even macro-cultural level
Evolution builds on previous generations. Which is why there is such thing as an evolutionary dead end. You cannot undo or radically transform. This lack of flexibly makes it imperfect. If you were to manipulate evolutionary pressures on a species you could make it extinct.
That's a reflection of your own vulnerability. It's adapt or die no matter the cost or circumstance. That's how evolution makes decisions. You don't get to change that by arguing however eloquently it's imperfections.
I don't get to ignore it in my analysis if i deem it 'imperfect,' _THAT_ is pure ideology.
What do you mean, 'you don't get to change it'. Of course you do. It is inevitable.
you dont get to change the decision making method of evolution
Ah, that's true. But you can manipulate genetics.
It is vastly unwise to do so.
Do you have a good reason not to?
It's at once too complex and too misunderstood to apply with any certainty of outcome.
We will probably disagree here, but i've worked in genomics for a while now.
and while i ought not to appeal to authority
or declare myself an expert
my personal opinion is a gigantic well researched no
But you can understand, 'it's just too complex' is almost verging on luddite tier rebuttal.
which is my eternal disappointment with the determination
i hate that i learned all i did and came away with 'we have no idea'
Are you saying genetic research has a low ceiling?
@Blebleh Please stop spamming. The grown ups are talking.
Genetic research is a literal meme.
You can create a few homunculi, but that's probably about half of what you'll end up with
the real manipulation is in proteins, that's the closest control surface we ought to touch
simple because genes are not _read only_
You're getting in the game of muh human nature for capitalism
ive _BEEN_ in it
when primitive communism and socialism itself worked
manipulating human nature for fun and profit
thats how i know this shit
whatever you did it doesn't matter, it works
@OF-8 That's fantastic but stating your credentials over and over is just wasting space.
true
given
i dont have a marxist badge so i feel unfrockd
its fine
Let's start with really basic practices, like screening unborn cattle for disease, and selective breeding for traits in livestock. Next, genetically modified foods, another common practice. Next, animal cloning and IVF, not really high success rate but successes are successes. Are these things not what you would call progress in genetic research?
Not with regard to the need for humans to trade objects of value, fuck no.
OK, there are two parts here. Modifying humans over time with education and breeding, and outright changing the genome.
In the later, what are the main problems with genetic research which prevents experimentation with editting?