Message from @Onlyinmizzou

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2017-05-25 02:20:51 UTC  

oh okay, yeah that's why I carefully said it "suggests" that you're okay with violence. As opposed to....


"I don't have a problem with violence " nevermind lol

2017-05-25 02:22:12 UTC  

racial superiority is a tool to divide the proletariat in order to serve porky's needs. in neighboring ethnostates, class divisions would go on ignored, and workers' resentments would just be directed towards their neighbors

2017-05-25 02:24:50 UTC  

first off - nationalism and superiority are different things. I disagree with the spook "supremacy", on what grounds could you measure it? But nationalism does not require "better or worse" to be involved...

2017-05-25 02:25:16 UTC  

well then why the separatism?

2017-05-25 02:25:33 UTC  

isnt the whole point of ethnostates that you don't intermix with lesser races?

2017-05-25 02:25:41 UTC  

no

2017-05-25 02:25:56 UTC  

keep cultures unique

2017-05-25 02:26:26 UTC  

cultures are always changing by way of contact and integration

2017-05-25 02:26:49 UTC  

forced mass immigration to serve the needs of capital is going to have some undesirable cultural results

2017-05-25 02:27:13 UTC  

but general contact with other peoples is not threatening to civilization or otherwise bad in any way

2017-05-25 02:27:57 UTC  

so mass immigration "changes" culture -- which is to say it removes the original culture.

2017-05-25 02:28:21 UTC  

not really

2017-05-25 02:28:34 UTC  

I don't know what you mean by "contact", but of course it's fine to have "contact" and acknowledge the other cultures.

2017-05-25 02:28:51 UTC  

I mean would you say the hellenistic kingdoms of asia were completely deprived of their cultures via alexander?

2017-05-25 02:29:11 UTC  

I just mean exchange of people, ideas, and customs

2017-05-25 02:30:28 UTC  

well I wasn't there in the during the times of the hellenistic kingdoms of asia so I cannot say with pure confidence how exactly it affected their culture.

2017-05-25 02:31:00 UTC  

yes learning from and borrowing from other cultures is not impossible in a world with segregation.

2017-05-25 02:31:28 UTC  

okay but you haven't explained why the segregation is necessary in the first place

2017-05-25 02:31:28 UTC  

in fact it's very possible, and should be totally allowed and even encouraged. markets should and could exist between states

2017-05-25 02:31:44 UTC  

preservation of culture and history

2017-05-25 02:31:44 UTC  

"to preserve culture" is vague

2017-05-25 02:32:10 UTC  

but if you're promoting cultural exchange anyway, what's the difference?

2017-05-25 02:32:19 UTC  

well, for example, in the south right now, they are removing and banning symbols of the confederate. if the left had their way, then these symbols would be totally wiped from the slate of history.

2017-05-25 02:32:52 UTC  

I'm certainly not a southerner, nor am I defending their culture. But that is how culture and history gets destroyed.

2017-05-25 02:32:53 UTC  

there was literally a thread in leftypol last week about how we should keep the confederate flag and use it to rally southern leftists

2017-05-25 02:33:08 UTC  

what is this "left" you're talking about

2017-05-25 02:33:27 UTC  

egalitarians, primarily.

2017-05-25 02:33:34 UTC  

I suppose is their driving philosphy.

2017-05-25 02:33:43 UTC  

anyway, the confederate flag is a special case

2017-05-25 02:34:03 UTC  

not really.

2017-05-25 02:34:25 UTC  

everything will be a special case in its own unique way if you go that route.

2017-05-25 02:34:28 UTC  

because it was pretty limited in its importance before the 1950's and 60's when it was used as an anti-school integration symbol

2017-05-25 02:35:48 UTC  

ok well if you wanna wholeheartedly defend a symbol coddled to represent white supremacy that's your call. there's plenty of southern symbols and points of national pride that aren't specifically designed to represent rejection of integrated academia

2017-05-25 02:36:22 UTC  

I said ''I'm certainly not a southerner, nor am I defending their culture. But that is how culture and history gets destroyed."

2017-05-25 02:36:40 UTC  

I was just using it as a relevant, modern example, of how culture gets destroyed.

2017-05-25 02:36:52 UTC  

Since you seem to deny that

2017-05-25 02:36:58 UTC  

if you rehabilitate a cultural artifact to make a contemporary political statement then that artifact has grounds to be destroyed

2017-05-25 02:37:00 UTC  

that's how it works

2017-05-25 02:37:17 UTC  

says who?

2017-05-25 02:37:40 UTC  

that's how society has tended in most cases I can think of

2017-05-25 02:37:47 UTC  

the swastika was left alone until hitler used it