a. the fact that it requires ethnic cleansing to recognize and b. the entire idea is spooked as fuck and leads to violence

your avatar suggests, and the guy you were talking to suggests, that you have absolutely no problem with violence...

and the idea that a white ethnostate leads to violence is not necessarily true

don't be a dipshit

my avatar is an aesthetic that does not necessarily reflect my ideology

I don't have a problem with violence to reverse class domination and eventually abolish it, but I do have a problem with random violence stirred up by hate that ethnostates inevitably lead to

oh okay, yeah that's why I carefully said it "suggests" that you're okay with violence. As opposed to....


"I don't have a problem with violence " nevermind lol

racial superiority is a tool to divide the proletariat in order to serve porky's needs. in neighboring ethnostates, class divisions would go on ignored, and workers' resentments would just be directed towards their neighbors

first off - nationalism and superiority are different things. I disagree with the spook "supremacy", on what grounds could you measure it? But nationalism does not require "better or worse" to be involved...

well then why the separatism?

isnt the whole point of ethnostates that you don't intermix with lesser races?

no

keep cultures unique

cultures are always changing by way of contact and integration

forced mass immigration to serve the needs of capital is going to have some undesirable cultural results

but general contact with other peoples is not threatening to civilization or otherwise bad in any way

so mass immigration "changes" culture -- which is to say it removes the original culture.

not really

I don't know what you mean by "contact", but of course it's fine to have "contact" and acknowledge the other cultures.

I mean would you say the hellenistic kingdoms of asia were completely deprived of their cultures via alexander?

I just mean exchange of people, ideas, and customs

well I wasn't there in the during the times of the hellenistic kingdoms of asia so I cannot say with pure confidence how exactly it affected their culture.

yes learning from and borrowing from other cultures is not impossible in a world with segregation.

okay but you haven't explained why the segregation is necessary in the first place

in fact it's very possible, and should be totally allowed and even encouraged. markets should and could exist between states

preservation of culture and history

"to preserve culture" is vague

but if you're promoting cultural exchange anyway, what's the difference?

well, for example, in the south right now, they are removing and banning symbols of the confederate. if the left had their way, then these symbols would be totally wiped from the slate of history.

I'm certainly not a southerner, nor am I defending their culture. But that is how culture and history gets destroyed.

there was literally a thread in leftypol last week about how we should keep the confederate flag and use it to rally southern leftists

what is this "left" you're talking about

egalitarians, primarily.

I suppose is their driving philosphy.

anyway, the confederate flag is a special case

not really.

everything will be a special case in its own unique way if you go that route.

because it was pretty limited in its importance before the 1950's and 60's when it was used as an anti-school integration symbol

ok well if you wanna wholeheartedly defend a symbol coddled to represent white supremacy that's your call. there's plenty of southern symbols and points of national pride that aren't specifically designed to represent rejection of integrated academia

I said ''I'm certainly not a southerner, nor am I defending their culture. But that is how culture and history gets destroyed."

I was just using it as a relevant, modern example, of how culture gets destroyed.