Message from @Deleted User

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2017-05-29 06:10:28 UTC  

If you goal is not advancement of humanity, your ideology is troglodyte.

2017-05-29 06:10:44 UTC  

In a stable and prosperous society like what Germany and Italy would have been had they not been defeated, I'd have to say that's hard to imagine.

2017-05-29 06:11:20 UTC  

So your answer to difficult scenarios is "it's hard to imagine". I thought so. Fascism is child's play.

2017-05-29 06:11:54 UTC  

Because it didn't really happen without the effects of the most massive war in Human history.

2017-05-29 06:12:27 UTC  

So where are the Fascist theories that project into the future and make predictions?

2017-05-29 06:12:33 UTC  

Like Marx did.

2017-05-29 06:13:27 UTC  

Why would they need to? Fascism is about nations striving to secure themselves and solve their problems here and now, not to predict the future.

2017-05-29 06:13:47 UTC  

That's why it is inferior.

2017-05-29 06:13:52 UTC  

Why?

2017-05-29 06:14:09 UTC  

There is no end game strategy, like in Chess.

2017-05-29 06:14:34 UTC  

Worrying about the far future and ignoring pressing issues seems inferior to me.

2017-05-29 06:15:14 UTC  

Who said worrying about just the far future? A rigorous theory should be able to project into all scenarios with confidence.

2017-05-29 06:15:53 UTC  

Marxist-Leninism does the present and the future together.

2017-05-29 06:16:14 UTC  

It does not need to be a one-size-fits-all ideology people can change the tennants of their government as neccesary to accomplish whay they need to.

2017-05-29 06:17:27 UTC  

Folly. In other words you have no idea. You answer it 'we'll work it out as we go'. Well, a more organised and planned system will defeat that.

2017-05-29 06:17:42 UTC  

Adaptation is always better.

2017-05-29 06:17:56 UTC  

Of course.

2017-05-29 06:18:18 UTC  

What is it about Marxist-Leninism that will make it work in all scenarios?

2017-05-29 06:18:43 UTC  

If you knew anything about Dialectical Materialism, you would know it is fully adaptable. It is informed about adaptions and how to do it.

2017-05-29 06:19:36 UTC  

Why don't you give me some of the improtant details of it that reference this specific issue? (If there is one)

2017-05-29 06:20:34 UTC  

I'm impressed that you are willing to read about. This is rare for those in your circles. https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

2017-05-29 06:21:10 UTC  

Marxism takes lots of study.

2017-05-29 06:22:40 UTC  

Yeah even when I used to be a Marxist the reading material was always intimidating. Yikes.

2017-05-29 06:23:56 UTC  

Unfortuately humanity is infantile at this stage. Not everyone can be theoretician. As Lenin said, 'It takes 100 wise men to answer the question of 1 fool'.

2017-05-29 06:25:04 UTC  

Our aims is the create a Vanguard to implement Socialism and use that structure to educate and transform humanity into a place where it can be class conscious and enlightened in this theory.

2017-05-29 06:27:06 UTC  

So the end goal is to have a society of workers without hierarchy and spirituality? Doesn't sound all that great, it sounds as if it will just lead to stagnation and collapse like before.

2017-05-29 06:27:46 UTC  

What can I say, to a dog, human life doesn't seem that great either.

2017-05-29 06:28:16 UTC  

Your thoughts are not based in objective reality.

2017-05-29 06:28:39 UTC  

Spirituality is the most important dimension of life. Rather, it permeates all dimensions of life.

2017-05-29 06:28:54 UTC  

It has no mobility, no incentive, no competition, no amount of education and "enlightenment" can keep that going.

2017-05-29 06:29:06 UTC  

@PremYattani Thanks Deepak for that vague and useless statement.

2017-05-29 06:29:44 UTC  

Religion can be very important to the cohesiveness of societies.

2017-05-29 06:29:44 UTC  

You can think of the statement how you will, but the idea of living in harmony and leading a fulfilled existence, has everything to do with spirituality.

2017-05-29 06:29:59 UTC  

So with no attention placed towards spirituality, society becomes diseased.

2017-05-29 06:30:06 UTC  

Maybe. Either Communism works, or Barbarism is the only way.

2017-05-29 06:30:21 UTC  

That's an incredibly limited set of options 😂

2017-05-29 06:30:30 UTC  

Also, not true

2017-05-29 06:30:44 UTC  

For instance the Balkans might still be subjugated by the Muslims if it weren't for the bonds created not just by blood, but by faith.

2017-05-29 06:30:54 UTC  

@Deleted User If man does not fit into Communism, then man has to be changed.

2017-05-29 06:30:56 UTC  

I assume you are saying that, anything beside communism is barbarism?

2017-05-29 06:31:02 UTC