Message from @Hezbolshevik
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Communism is materialistic/economic egalitarian
What
There's no arguing that lmao
it's not egalitarian; but removing the bourgeoisie makes a more egalitarian world since there's no exploitation
Why do it's follower countries not follow such a model then
it doesn't want to redistribute the wealth between the workers
the same workers
In the Soviet union you got money based on how much you work and how much your work is worth
What do you guys have to say about communism failing so much?
It's a genuine question
The Soviet Union failed because of internal market liberalization
Most Russians wish for it to be back
"We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man’s own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence.
Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Do you mean the property of petty artisan and of the small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily. "
personal property isn't abolished
those saying that it didn't work are trotskyists, we aren't; it worked and we say that revisionism entered culminating in the restoration of capitalism
Some things you may cite against us aren't actually communist and i can explain
Ie Venezuela
Or the dprk
@Evan are you going to say anything?
To put it simply Venezuela was only ever democratic socialist, meaning to acheive socialism democratically with reform
Anybody can see that they have a large private sector
And the dprk has gone towards juche because of the threat of south Korea and imperialism, it was last socialist in 1972 although it is not as poor as portrayed it still suffers from poverty
Venezuela was the richest country in South America before Chavez
Only socialism can fuck something up that bad
Are you autistic and did you read what I said
Only an autistic man would think reform can build socialism
even in that they reduced poverty
The private sector can't do anything because of the government
the private sector must be entirely expropriated or they aren't socialists
>reduced poverty
yes
>gained one do the highest crime rates in the world
>tolerating financed opposition
What do you say against the argument that communism is not yet suitable for human nature?
that argument emerges in the view that to make communism people have to be altruist, or that they'll be worse; they won't be able to trade
the workers, who are the majority; would have improvements in their work, healthcare and education; they'd feel less alienated and therefore they would be able to fill their emotions better
so it's more compatible with "human nature"
Bullshit.