Most Russians wish for it to be back

"We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man’s own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence.

Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Do you mean the property of petty artisan and of the small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily. "

Source: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

personal property isn't abolished

those saying that it didn't work are trotskyists, we aren't; it worked and we say that revisionism entered culminating in the restoration of capitalism

Some things you may cite against us aren't actually communist and i can explain

Ie Venezuela

Or the dprk

I.E.*

@Evan are you going to say anything?

To put it simply Venezuela was only ever democratic socialist, meaning to acheive socialism democratically with reform

Anybody can see that they have a large private sector

And the dprk has gone towards juche because of the threat of south Korea and imperialism, it was last socialist in 1972 although it is not as poor as portrayed it still suffers from poverty

Venezuela was the richest country in South America before Chavez

Only socialism can fuck something up that bad

Are you autistic and did you read what I said

Only an autistic man would think reform can build socialism

even in that they reduced poverty

The private sector can't do anything because of the government

the private sector must be entirely expropriated or they aren't socialists

>reduced poverty

yes

>gained one do the highest crime rates in the world

>tolerating financed opposition

What do you say against the argument that communism is not yet suitable for human nature?

that argument emerges in the view that to make communism people have to be altruist, or that they'll be worse; they won't be able to trade

the workers, who are the majority; would have improvements in their work, healthcare and education; they'd feel less alienated and therefore they would be able to fill their emotions better

so it's more compatible with "human nature"

Bullshit.

if they point out scientific management under in the period of war they have to realize that they needed to speed up the production because they were in the backward compared to other countries

and they needed to do it to win

Pure post-modern bullshit.

hey comrade ❤

Their science can describe a fart as a public utterance of dissent.

Oh hy

that derailed fast

Hello comrades

So human nature, as it is right now, is compatible with communism, and resistance against it stems from ideology that is resistant to this inevitable progress?

human nature isn't compatible, but human nature =/= what is best for all humans

sure Chopin

@𝔊𝔦𝔷𝔪𝔬𝔧𝔦 Where do you measure 'best for all humans'?