Message from @Mros
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If so, why does there have to be a First Cause? If the universe is infinite in space and time, cause and effect goes on and went on forever.
God does not exist.
For an effect to occur wouldn't there have to be a catalyst?
I can't comment much on Aquinas because I'm still new to his work.
But that's my understanding of it.
The Compendium of Theology is a good introduction to his ideas. For more in depth explanation of them you could read the Summa Theologicae.
Nigga be gay?
are dank maymays allowed gere?
Probably
For God to have created the universe it needs to have an origin, but it is not clear that the universe ever had one.
It isn't clear that there isn't a beginning though.
it is not clear the beginning if the end was the start of the beginning
@Mros I guess you're right about that. It is ambiguous.
BRB
It would be logical to think though, that there would be a beginning.
I think the opposite is logical given there is no evidence of it ever happening or being possible.
Would it be logical to think that is has always just existed?
Yes.
If so why would it be expanding away from a specific point?
Of course the big bang is just a theory, but it is plausible.
Why does that matter? Laws of thermodynamics don't change. Energy is never created or destroyed only transforms.
True.
It depend on what you mean by beginning and end. In the extreme future the universe is predicted to cool down and eventually all matter will stop moving. That is a kind of end, even though it is one extreme end of transformation.
You can say the same about the beginning, however still, matter is not created from nothing.
Nor will matter ever disappear. It is hard to say where the role of God would be, if any.
Who knows
It's outside of my knowledge.
So it's not really something I can comment on, unforutuneatley.
They're questions worth asking though.
Theologically though, I can reason, that perfect knowledge would be hidden from us from God on purpose, so that free will is still possible.
It also fits into the hierarchy of man and God
Oh, here it is.
I found a pdf of The Compendium Of Theology
I have it. I will refer to it now.
Oh ok
Latin is such a pretty language.
It is
Ah, Aquinas says First Mover, not first cause. That's interesting. There does seem to have been a beginning of movement in the early universe. So he is saying God inspired movement, or transformation of energy into motion.
Yes