Message from @Sorghagtani Beki

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2017-06-09 04:29:50 UTC  

he made us this way

2017-06-09 04:30:16 UTC  

When they got disproved and by who?

2017-06-09 04:30:28 UTC  

The Christian God is omnipotent and knows if someone will go to heaven or hell

2017-06-09 04:30:48 UTC  

Therefore an all good god would not let anyone be born who would go to hell

2017-06-09 04:30:57 UTC  

God would be unjust if there was no way for man to be absolved of his original sin. Fortunately, that is not the case, becuase God sent his son to face the punishment man deserved so they could avoid damnation.

2017-06-09 04:31:13 UTC  

@Firefly No. Like I just said, evidence shows the universe is expanding from a single point. Scientists have tried for 50 years to discredit this, and failed. Their alternatives, like 'bounce theory', and 'uneven expansion' have all been shown to be wrong.

2017-06-09 04:31:19 UTC  

The Christian God sent Christ to the Levant

2017-06-09 04:31:21 UTC  

that isn't a good god

2017-06-09 04:31:30 UTC  

This is a biased God if this is the supreme God

2017-06-09 04:31:31 UTC  

a god that judges the humans who aren't guilty

2017-06-09 04:31:33 UTC  

@Deleted User That is questionable

2017-06-09 04:31:39 UTC  

Rather, Tengri uses different Gods for different people

2017-06-09 04:31:39 UTC  

it has to be overthrown

2017-06-09 04:31:41 UTC  

No bias.

2017-06-09 04:31:45 UTC  

As I said, man has sin inherent to him and thus is guilty.

2017-06-09 04:32:02 UTC  

Does there exist a perfect man who has done no evil?

2017-06-09 04:32:12 UTC  

Oh, so that's where the EUIV Tengri ability comes from...

2017-06-09 04:32:15 UTC  

@Firefly Yes, questionable. Everything is questionable. But not equally.

2017-06-09 04:32:29 UTC  

@Deleted User Show me a disprove of a multiverse

2017-06-09 04:32:32 UTC  

this is a very vengeful god

2017-06-09 04:32:35 UTC  

A good god would not let anyone be born who he knew would go to hell.

2017-06-09 04:32:40 UTC  

I think we could reach a paradise in the end of history

2017-06-09 04:33:00 UTC  

Would it be vengeful to allow someone to face the reprecussions of his actions?

2017-06-09 04:33:00 UTC  

The Christian God is merely an illusion to reach Tengri.

2017-06-09 04:33:10 UTC  

@Firefly Multiverse theory has little to do with expansion of the universe, nor does it contradict it.

2017-06-09 04:33:22 UTC  

It is vengeful to punish man for the actions of his forefathers.

2017-06-09 04:33:25 UTC  

@Deleted User It contradicts the first mover.

2017-06-09 04:33:41 UTC  

if it serves the society no; but he's being vengeful with innocents

2017-06-09 04:33:42 UTC  

@Firefly Multiverse theory does not contradict first mover.

2017-06-09 04:33:46 UTC  

Except it isn't the actions of his forefathers. It is inherent to human nature.

2017-06-09 04:33:47 UTC  

with the sons

2017-06-09 04:34:07 UTC  

@Deleted User So multiverse is not disproven?

2017-06-09 04:34:13 UTC  

I don't think human nature is evil

2017-06-09 04:34:19 UTC  

and why do you think that?

2017-06-09 04:34:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Is string theory disproven?

2017-06-09 04:34:28 UTC  

I do not think the Christian God is really omnipotent. An all powerful god would simply destroy sin. There is no sin in Tengrism.

2017-06-09 04:34:48 UTC  

An all powerful god does not need missionaries to spread his word.

2017-06-09 04:34:55 UTC  

@Firefly No. Why are you mentioning random theories. I already made the logical framework. The argument depends on the fact that the universe expanded from a single point.

2017-06-09 04:34:56 UTC  

If human nature wasn't evil then why do you have to teach someone goodness and morality?

2017-06-09 04:35:06 UTC  

Or are people inherently moral?

2017-06-09 04:35:11 UTC  

but yet humans come from a fallen caracter, hence the need to spread the word