Message from @Mros

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2017-06-11 06:14:26 UTC  

the chairman will not be pleased 🇨🇳

2017-06-11 06:14:50 UTC  

Tengriism is heresy.

2017-06-11 06:14:59 UTC  

It's worse than that

2017-06-11 06:15:06 UTC  

tengriism is a heresy of all religions

2017-06-11 06:15:14 UTC  

It's a heresy which claims the true faith is heresy

2017-06-11 06:15:30 UTC  

Gnosticism and nestorianism are heresies. This is something completely different.

2017-06-11 06:15:42 UTC  

What do you base this statement upon? My faith says that no religion is heresy, because all religions are under Tengri.

2017-06-11 06:15:59 UTC  

What are the theological origins of Tengriism?

2017-06-11 06:16:02 UTC  

The history of it

2017-06-11 06:16:32 UTC  

There are no laws in Tengriism. Tengriism deals with the spiritual connection of the individual with God. Individuals connect with God in different ways.

2017-06-11 06:16:45 UTC  

So how does one become connected with God?

2017-06-11 06:17:20 UTC  

You can do this through other religions, through shamanists, or by praying for oneself and asking for Tengri's guidance if you wish to do it directly.

2017-06-11 06:18:08 UTC  

The greatest worship of Tengri above all is to help preserve nature.

2017-06-11 06:18:14 UTC  

I stand corrected. St. Thomas (II-II:11:1) defines heresy: "a species of infidelity in men who, having professed the faith of Christ, corrupt its dogmas"

2017-06-11 06:18:17 UTC  

When I am feeling pious, I plant a tree.

2017-06-11 06:18:33 UTC  

Oh I see

2017-06-11 06:18:39 UTC  

So it's worship of the world.

2017-06-11 06:18:56 UTC  

Oh, so like, Prots?

2017-06-11 06:19:01 UTC  

lol

2017-06-11 06:19:11 UTC  

>There are no laws in Tengriism.
>Goes onto describe laws

2017-06-11 06:19:18 UTC  

🤔

2017-06-11 06:19:22 UTC  

We must live in harmony with this world in Tengriism, and we all return to Tengri in the afterlife.

2017-06-11 06:19:35 UTC  

(I know I once said I was a Prot, I don't even know at this point. I'm just a Christian.)

2017-06-11 06:19:47 UTC  

So there are laws.

2017-06-11 06:19:58 UTC  

Also, you know, ripping apart the christian world over marriage.

2017-06-11 06:20:13 UTC  

There are no laws. You will return to Tengri no matter what.

2017-06-11 06:20:19 UTC  

That's a law.

2017-06-11 06:20:26 UTC  

What is a law?

2017-06-11 06:20:38 UTC  

Tengri demands nothing of his children.

2017-06-11 06:20:59 UTC  

I'd better heard out now, Good night everyone, and God bless.

2017-06-11 06:21:04 UTC  

As individuals, we seek out Tengri for guidance in life in various ways. There is no necessity.

2017-06-11 06:21:27 UTC  

unfortunatley in china it is protestants who spread and not catholics

2017-06-11 06:21:29 UTC  

Enjoy your rest.

2017-06-11 06:21:38 UTC  

@Mros Night

2017-06-11 06:21:59 UTC  

Sorry, what you describe is Tengri doctrines, or beliefs.

2017-06-11 06:22:30 UTC  

All religions fit under this. Tengri extends various religions as methods to reach him.

2017-06-11 06:22:45 UTC  

That would include Christianity. You are a Tengriist in my view.

2017-06-11 06:23:05 UTC  

because the catholic church is centered and obviously loyal or influenced to/by the vatican, the chinese government does not allow them frequently to convert people

2017-06-11 06:23:36 UTC  

so really only the protestants and orthodox can sucesfully spread

2017-06-11 06:24:20 UTC  

Orthedox is more moral.

2017-06-11 06:24:21 UTC  

Tengri is superstition and pride, not based on reason.