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2017-06-13 04:17:35 UTC  

Which is why they justify everyone going to paradise

2017-06-13 04:17:45 UTC  

Why would everyone have to go to paradise?

2017-06-13 04:17:56 UTC  

I believe Tengriists follow the philosophy of determinism

2017-06-13 04:17:59 UTC  

The Tengriist believes in a god without standards.

2017-06-13 04:18:10 UTC  

Which is the reason they use the different paths for different cultures argument

2017-06-13 04:18:40 UTC  

But why does a perfect God have to deliver everyone to paradise?

2017-06-13 04:18:50 UTC  

Why does god necessarily need standards?

2017-06-13 04:19:02 UTC  

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2017-06-13 04:19:09 UTC  

Why does a perfect god not délivrer everyone to heaven?

2017-06-13 04:19:47 UTC  

The Absolute, be definition, is beyond us. We are like children asking why we can't all have candy all the time.

2017-06-13 04:20:01 UTC  

Of course, I don't agree with any of this nonsense

2017-06-13 04:20:09 UTC  

I am simply making my case that the two religions are similar

2017-06-13 04:20:15 UTC  

This is a theoretical argument, sure.

2017-06-13 04:20:16 UTC  

In their fallacious logic

2017-06-13 04:20:31 UTC  

The both have problems, but for different reasons.

2017-06-13 04:20:54 UTC  

I am pedantic about why things are wrong, not just that they are.

2017-06-13 04:22:08 UTC  

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2017-06-13 04:22:09 UTC  

My logic is that if we can make the case that two logics can be disproven on the backbone of similar logical failures, then one cannot reasonably choose one over the other

2017-06-13 04:22:17 UTC  

Religions*

2017-06-13 04:22:34 UTC  

It would then be illogical to pick one religion over the other

2017-06-13 04:23:04 UTC  

There can only be one primarily correct religion, but it is possible that some religions can co-exist as a subset of another.

2017-06-13 04:23:06 UTC  

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2017-06-13 04:23:24 UTC  

Tengri is one example, Islam may be another grey area.

2017-06-13 04:23:28 UTC  

The issue is that in this case Tengriism and Christianity clearly contradict

2017-06-13 04:23:36 UTC  

They do.

2017-06-13 04:23:37 UTC  

From the perspective of Christians

2017-06-13 04:23:46 UTC  

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2017-06-13 04:24:20 UTC  

@TAbell Welcome, comrade.

2017-06-13 04:24:50 UTC  

But if the fatal flaw for both can be pinpointed on one error, "god is mysterious and perfect and can therefore make this worse", and if they contradict, they cannot coexist

2017-06-13 04:25:05 UTC  

One is wrong and the other is correct

2017-06-13 04:25:13 UTC  

No one can reasonably decide which one is correct

2017-06-13 04:25:50 UTC  

So that destroys any attempt to prove one religion until the "god can make it work" part is dispelled

2017-06-13 04:26:03 UTC  

Not with 100% certainty. But you can propose natural reason to show why your religion is more coherent than all the others, and why it contradicts.

2017-06-13 04:26:35 UTC  

@TAbell Don't look Chopin in the eyes or he will try to baptize you.

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2017-06-13 04:27:29 UTC  

Alrighty then

2017-06-13 04:27:46 UTC  

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2017-06-13 04:28:40 UTC  

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2017-06-13 04:29:16 UTC  

She's a beauty.

2017-06-13 04:31:02 UTC  

You can tell how much the T34 traumatised the Germans by the fact all their new tanks after the invasion of Russia favoured sloped armour over their traditional 'folded steel'. It was an irrational response to a real nightmare.

2017-06-13 04:32:02 UTC  

You cannot underestimate the psychological damage the T34 had on the Wehrmacht leadership.