Message from @Jeff

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2017-06-15 06:42:09 UTC  

Iron Cross

2017-06-15 06:42:15 UTC  

oh

2017-06-15 06:42:43 UTC  

So basically emotional constructs not based in necessity...

2017-06-15 06:42:49 UTC  

regardless you shouldn't insult him while he isn't here to atleast defend himself

2017-06-15 06:43:04 UTC  

We identify these things as morals but they would exist regardless

2017-06-15 06:43:17 UTC  

Morals are evolutionarily useful for social animals to function together

2017-06-15 06:43:23 UTC  

Emotion does not prove the existence of god

2017-06-15 06:43:23 UTC  

Does morality exist without emotions?

2017-06-15 06:43:25 UTC  

Why does Peter Parker be Spiderman?

2017-06-15 06:43:40 UTC  

They can exist

2017-06-15 06:43:47 UTC  

I know psychopaths who are very compatible

2017-06-15 06:43:56 UTC  

But emotions make socializing easier

2017-06-15 06:44:00 UTC  

And pulls society closer

2017-06-15 06:44:03 UTC  

Anyhow

2017-06-15 06:44:14 UTC  

Kind of off topic comment as that has nothing to do with proving god

2017-06-15 06:44:19 UTC  

So you are saying emotions are favourable...

2017-06-15 06:44:29 UTC  

In the context of socializing

2017-06-15 06:44:34 UTC  

Not proving the existence of god

2017-06-15 06:44:37 UTC  

Read again

2017-06-15 06:44:46 UTC  

I'm getting there.

2017-06-15 06:44:47 UTC  

Emotions allow for free will

2017-06-15 06:44:55 UTC  

>free will

2017-06-15 06:45:04 UTC  

You can't choose something without a preference. You can't have a preference without emotion.

2017-06-15 06:45:06 UTC  

More like prevent it

2017-06-15 06:45:15 UTC  

Yes your preference forces your choice

2017-06-15 06:45:28 UTC  

Do people choose their emotions that are favourable to society?

2017-06-15 06:45:45 UTC  

What like murder is bad?

2017-06-15 06:46:23 UTC  

Humans are evolutionarily designed to not want to do that for no reason

2017-06-15 06:46:23 UTC  

Your preferences are a part of you. So basically a part of you forces your choices. Which means you choose by the force of emotion. Thus free will is emotional.

2017-06-15 06:46:39 UTC  

It's not really free will then

2017-06-15 06:46:43 UTC  

It's just choice

2017-06-15 06:46:44 UTC  

?

2017-06-15 06:46:48 UTC  

Just like animals make choices

2017-06-15 06:46:50 UTC  

So people, without choosing, act in a favourable way, based on a blind assumption from emotion.

2017-06-15 06:46:56 UTC  

Do animals have free will?

2017-06-15 06:47:06 UTC  

If you have self-control, you have free will.

2017-06-15 06:47:11 UTC  

It's not a blind assumption

2017-06-15 06:47:18 UTC  

Society won't work if everyone is murdering each other

2017-06-15 06:47:28 UTC  

People who did that died off

2017-06-15 06:47:29 UTC  

You have to be free from impulse. For example, if you can keep jogging even when you're tired, you have free will.

2017-06-15 06:47:41 UTC  

Sure but why are you jogging