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Anyhow
Kind of off topic comment as that has nothing to do with proving god
So you are saying emotions are favourable...
In the context of socializing
Not proving the existence of god
Read again
I'm getting there.
Emotions allow for free will
>free will
You can't choose something without a preference. You can't have a preference without emotion.
More like prevent it
Yes your preference forces your choice
Do people choose their emotions that are favourable to society?
What like murder is bad?
Humans are evolutionarily designed to not want to do that for no reason
Your preferences are a part of you. So basically a part of you forces your choices. Which means you choose by the force of emotion. Thus free will is emotional.
It's not really free will then
It's just choice
?
Just like animals make choices
Do animals have free will?
If you have self-control, you have free will.
It's not a blind assumption
Society won't work if everyone is murdering each other
People who did that died off
You have to be free from impulse. For example, if you can keep jogging even when you're tired, you have free will.
Sure but why are you jogging
Desire to lose more fat?
There you go
People with Tourettes, Autism, etc. might not be able to control their impulses
It's not really free will as it's the same as animals performing choices
Your desire is an emotion, sure, but it's not an impulse, because it's not an reflex. Free will requires a certain amount of thought
Let me establish that emotions have a positive role. From this I can say that they are not useless, and therefore have weight in practical matters.
I never said they were useless
You need consciousness to have will
I said they were useless in debate
Read again
You need a sense of existence, a first-person perspective, to have conscoiusness
But they are not useless in debate, we just established emotions have a practical role.
This self-sense might not extend to worms, jellyfish, etc.