Message from @Sorghagtani Beki
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I'm not arguing two people on different topics at the same time
Wait your turn
I am stating that sometimes people believe in something before is has been 'proven' by reason. It is therefore possible to resemble truth through emotion, a hypothesis formed by intuition.
Sometimes people believe in things that are later proven
That's just confirmation bias
It says nothing about whether it is true
If I was some guy in 1000 ad
For some reason my emotions told me germs exist
I can't reasonably claim they exist without proof
There is some intuitive wisdom in emotion.
That's called confirmation bias
That's called a gamble gone right
A gamble
Nothing else
Right now I can also assume Tengri exists
Or Allah exists
While others claim other gods exist
Based on faith alone
One person will be right
That's not reason
That's called placing bets
There are two realities: your internal reality, and an external reality
The only one that you can prove exists, prove to yourself I mean, is your internal one.
Because guess what even if my emotions told me germs exist there are probably thousands of other claims that other things exist from faith and emotions
You have a point. Emotions cannot make empirical claims. I have made a categorical error.
How do I know who's correct? At this point let's say no one knows if germs exist
You see the problem
You're assuming that you're the right one
You're assuming you're the guy who gambled and found out about the existence of germs
Right now you have no clue
Neither did the germ guy
You can see a bacterium in a microscope, but you can't prove that it's not in illusion or that you're not just in the Matrix
I have to abandon that God is an empirical claim.
You assume you're the correct one, the miraculous germ guy, when in actuality *you have no clue if you're not just one of the millions of people who are wrong*
That's called bias
God is a phenomenon. A psychological reality that actually affects the outcome of history.
Therefore, God as an idea has power to influence the external world.
any idea can influence the external world
Are ideas real?
Yes.