Message from @Seedle
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Which they mostly lost due to imperialism
one that actually incentivized people to work instead of having to coerce them
which is why no western nation has ever had to build walls to stop people from leaving
Which in it's self is betreyal to anything leftist
imperialism is the nature of civilization itself
its its natural conclusion
Imperialism is the nature of capitalism
power begets more power
Not civilisation
but the USSR was imperialist
in every way the USA was
You had primitive civilisations
without a state
do you mean neolithic civilizations?
because even the earliest civilizations were states in a sense
in that people worked under one banner
>state just means people rule under a collective being
No.
but my point is the USSR was also imperialist
yeah it does though
you have people working with leadership and a collective identity
thats basically a state
humans are herd mammals
its our natural state of existence
USSR being imperialist doesn't prove that imperialism is also leftist
Herds aren't states
lol
that's like
no it proves that civilization and humanity itself is imperialist
implying
a commune would be a state
yes
exactly
no
a commune IS a state
that's literally not what a state is
A commune can be a state, but it doesn't have to
a state is an apparatus of the ruling class to enforce power.
a commune isn't a state
its essentially extreme neo feudalism and is extraorinarily inneficient