Message from @Deleted User

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2017-07-01 12:06:19 UTC  

imperialism is the nature of civilization itself

2017-07-01 12:06:23 UTC  

its its natural conclusion

2017-07-01 12:06:32 UTC  

Imperialism is the nature of capitalism

2017-07-01 12:06:34 UTC  

power begets more power

2017-07-01 12:06:38 UTC  

Not civilisation

2017-07-01 12:06:43 UTC  

but the USSR was imperialist

2017-07-01 12:06:47 UTC  

in every way the USA was

2017-07-01 12:06:53 UTC  

You had primitive civilisations

2017-07-01 12:06:57 UTC  

without a state

2017-07-01 12:07:09 UTC  

do you mean neolithic civilizations?

2017-07-01 12:07:17 UTC  

because even the earliest civilizations were states in a sense

2017-07-01 12:07:22 UTC  

in that people worked under one banner

2017-07-01 12:07:42 UTC  

>state just means people rule under a collective being

2017-07-01 12:07:46 UTC  

No.

2017-07-01 12:07:47 UTC  

but my point is the USSR was also imperialist

2017-07-01 12:07:52 UTC  

yeah it does though

2017-07-01 12:08:00 UTC  

no it doesn't

2017-07-01 12:08:10 UTC  

you have people working with leadership and a collective identity

2017-07-01 12:08:14 UTC  

thats basically a state

2017-07-01 12:08:22 UTC  

humans are herd mammals

2017-07-01 12:08:27 UTC  

its our natural state of existence

2017-07-01 12:08:28 UTC  

USSR being imperialist doesn't prove that imperialism is also leftist

2017-07-01 12:08:36 UTC  

Herds aren't states

2017-07-01 12:08:40 UTC  

lol

2017-07-01 12:08:42 UTC  

that's like

2017-07-01 12:08:42 UTC  

no it proves that civilization and humanity itself is imperialist

2017-07-01 12:08:43 UTC  

implying

2017-07-01 12:08:47 UTC  

a commune would be a state

2017-07-01 12:08:51 UTC  

yes

2017-07-01 12:08:52 UTC  

exactly

2017-07-01 12:08:55 UTC  

no

2017-07-01 12:08:56 UTC  

a commune IS a state

2017-07-01 12:09:00 UTC  

that's literally not what a state is

2017-07-01 12:09:10 UTC  

A commune can be a state, but it doesn't have to

2017-07-01 12:09:11 UTC  

a state is an apparatus of the ruling class to enforce power.

2017-07-01 12:09:15 UTC  

a commune isn't a state

2017-07-01 12:09:21 UTC  

its essentially extreme neo feudalism and is extraorinarily inneficient

2017-07-01 12:09:27 UTC  

wolf

2017-07-01 12:09:30 UTC  

what's your ideology.

2017-07-01 12:09:31 UTC  

so does this commune have leaders?

2017-07-01 12:09:34 UTC  

how does anything get done