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what were chiefs then
I said the state is an apparatus of the ruling class.
Because it is
Chiefs were generally after hunter-gatherers boi.
so hunter gatherers had no elders, no leaders of any kind
just like how wild bovine herds have no alpha males or leadership, theyre just a collective herd with no direction right?
Elders weren't always leaders, my dude
yes thatw as sarcasm
but they were though
it wasnt every man for himself
>no chiefs equals no leaders
wtf
early humans worked together
You keep strawmanning my point.
no I'm not
Like as if you CANT have a collective consensus on who's more qualified to make certain decisions
which isn't a state, tard.
There always has to be a leader
and an identity or whatever the fuck
like what?
Read early human history
you want a stateless state
I do read early human history
Again
a strawman.
What's your ideology?
thats not relevant
Yes it is.
Okay which class were in charge of this state? Exactly how'd this state use violence to keep the "proletariat" down?
I'm a Libertarian Communist.
Or slave owners
dont strawman my arguments by using personal attacks and ad hominems
adress what im saying
I am
judge me by the content of my character
It would be an ad hominem if I was simply denouncing your argument by personally attacking you.
I'm not though.
It's relevant because Seedle for example believes in the immediate destruction of the state (I assume) And I believe that when the proletariat has taken over the state and is done with it
it'll die out
Though I'm not too sure how ancom works