Message from @gronkt

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2017-07-07 11:23:59 UTC  

the power of the people is all

2017-07-07 11:24:09 UTC  

Ok

2017-07-07 11:24:11 UTC  

I see

2017-07-07 11:24:12 UTC  

people are greedy selfish lazy animals

2017-07-07 11:24:29 UTC  

they are corruptable

2017-07-07 11:24:35 UTC  

happens every time

2017-07-07 11:24:41 UTC  

one can say that america in its early phases was one of the most successful communes since everything was decided by councils

2017-07-07 11:24:55 UTC  

that was before big government and the civil war

2017-07-07 11:25:25 UTC  

They do work until they get attacked...

2017-07-07 11:25:34 UTC  

lol

2017-07-07 11:25:37 UTC  

America was ancap

2017-07-07 11:25:55 UTC  

no it wasnt ancap because capitalist was in its early phases

2017-07-07 11:26:00 UTC  

Built on self starters

2017-07-07 11:26:50 UTC  

there is nothin wrong with self starters, but having an advantage like the americans or australians where your given land is not really ancap, that is communism

2017-07-07 11:26:52 UTC  

If you're sharing stuff with your family it's not communism

2017-07-07 11:27:01 UTC  

Which was all America back then

2017-07-07 11:27:07 UTC  

yes but if you also share with community it is

2017-07-07 11:27:18 UTC  

bartering local trade

2017-07-07 11:27:25 UTC  

Most communities back then were related to each other

2017-07-07 11:27:31 UTC  

decentralised everything is communism

2017-07-07 11:27:36 UTC  

so it is possible for a nation but not for the whole planet

2017-07-07 11:27:46 UTC  

then it becomes the NWO

2017-07-07 11:28:08 UTC  

i think federalisation within nations and maintain trade on a planetary scale idealistic but possible

2017-07-07 11:28:24 UTC  

It's possible

2017-07-07 11:28:29 UTC  

yes i agree i hate th idea of any nwo world governemnt

2017-07-07 11:28:33 UTC  

But retarded

2017-07-07 11:28:45 UTC  

hahah perhaps time will tell

2017-07-07 11:28:48 UTC  

Why would you want the world's economies tied together?

2017-07-07 11:29:06 UTC  

trade is necessary for a good life

2017-07-07 11:29:12 UTC  

why should one Country that worked it arse of mining resources just share them with another Country that has nothing and did no work to better themselves ?

2017-07-07 11:29:36 UTC  

plus all knowledge and technical advancement relies on sharing, localism is anathema to knowledge growth

2017-07-07 11:30:16 UTC  

Hmm

2017-07-07 11:30:26 UTC  

youre talking about a national spirit, as though the collective owns anything

2017-07-07 11:30:55 UTC  

There's really only one kind of national spirit and that's ethnic

2017-07-07 11:30:57 UTC  

i dont sacrifice myself for my country, in fact, i dont want the ideology of sacrifice for anyone or anything, that is for me to decide

2017-07-07 11:31:19 UTC  

Then can you say you're truly living for anything?

2017-07-07 11:31:42 UTC  

wel the people of that Nation should share in the profits of the resources of that Country which is where socialism comes in

2017-07-07 11:31:56 UTC  

access to health and education

2017-07-07 11:32:00 UTC  

i can take on any philosopht, epicurean, stoic, buddhist, christian, yes i can sacrifice to realise my spiritual potential, or artistic potential etc

2017-07-07 11:32:16 UTC  

but i will not sacrifice for some imagines nation

2017-07-07 11:32:46 UTC  

culture and tradition is important but all the greatest individual growth will also come from antagomism with it