Message from @CheChe

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2017-07-07 11:27:25 UTC  

Most communities back then were related to each other

2017-07-07 11:27:31 UTC  

decentralised everything is communism

2017-07-07 11:27:36 UTC  

so it is possible for a nation but not for the whole planet

2017-07-07 11:27:46 UTC  

then it becomes the NWO

2017-07-07 11:28:08 UTC  

i think federalisation within nations and maintain trade on a planetary scale idealistic but possible

2017-07-07 11:28:24 UTC  

It's possible

2017-07-07 11:28:29 UTC  

yes i agree i hate th idea of any nwo world governemnt

2017-07-07 11:28:33 UTC  

But retarded

2017-07-07 11:28:45 UTC  

hahah perhaps time will tell

2017-07-07 11:28:48 UTC  

Why would you want the world's economies tied together?

2017-07-07 11:29:06 UTC  

trade is necessary for a good life

2017-07-07 11:29:12 UTC  

why should one Country that worked it arse of mining resources just share them with another Country that has nothing and did no work to better themselves ?

2017-07-07 11:29:36 UTC  

plus all knowledge and technical advancement relies on sharing, localism is anathema to knowledge growth

2017-07-07 11:30:16 UTC  

Hmm

2017-07-07 11:30:26 UTC  

youre talking about a national spirit, as though the collective owns anything

2017-07-07 11:30:55 UTC  

There's really only one kind of national spirit and that's ethnic

2017-07-07 11:30:57 UTC  

i dont sacrifice myself for my country, in fact, i dont want the ideology of sacrifice for anyone or anything, that is for me to decide

2017-07-07 11:31:19 UTC  

Then can you say you're truly living for anything?

2017-07-07 11:31:42 UTC  

wel the people of that Nation should share in the profits of the resources of that Country which is where socialism comes in

2017-07-07 11:31:56 UTC  

access to health and education

2017-07-07 11:32:00 UTC  

i can take on any philosopht, epicurean, stoic, buddhist, christian, yes i can sacrifice to realise my spiritual potential, or artistic potential etc

2017-07-07 11:32:16 UTC  

but i will not sacrifice for some imagines nation

2017-07-07 11:32:46 UTC  

culture and tradition is important but all the greatest individual growth will also come from antagomism with it

2017-07-07 11:33:07 UTC  

Why do you say that

2017-07-07 11:33:31 UTC  

look at Sweden now, they should not be burdened with the people of Africa and the Middle East to the point that they lose their own culture

2017-07-07 11:33:33 UTC  

Are you orthodox @gronkt

2017-07-07 11:33:40 UTC  

it is a form of genocide

2017-07-07 11:34:15 UTC  

no I am Agnostic

2017-07-07 11:34:21 UTC  

i can see the merit of this argument, but this Malthus not Marx. Population growth and expansion is a problem of global capital as well, not ideology

2017-07-07 11:34:26 UTC  

It is how colonization begins

2017-07-07 11:35:18 UTC  

Someone doesn't like white people and they're looking for ways to destroy them.

2017-07-07 11:35:22 UTC  

Not sure who it is

2017-07-07 11:35:23 UTC  

and in fact, capital which wants profit from war has created untold numbers of refugees. make the poor countries rich and no one will want to leave

2017-07-07 11:35:28 UTC  

But it's pretty obvious

2017-07-07 11:36:06 UTC  

africa can be developed, and the west has to help fast otherwise more shit will hit the fan

2017-07-07 11:36:37 UTC  

If Africa is shit without intervention it should stay shit

2017-07-07 11:36:49 UTC  

No one needs to help them

2017-07-07 11:36:58 UTC  

Or should feel compelled to

2017-07-07 11:37:01 UTC  

thats not feasible because their shit already is your shit

2017-07-07 11:37:03 UTC  

Isn't a lot of the conflict in Africa due to how poorly drawn the borders are?

2017-07-07 11:37:11 UTC  

Which was due to imperialism