Message from @ClibtardMario
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Because capitalism right now is being moved by overspending and government intense regulation (i.e. keynesianism)
I'm calling for a crash within a year or so
Yes, and if it is in crisis and makes people starve it should go, right?
Most people think like that?
keynes isn't regulations is it? isn't it more about spending
that'll be socdem
Both
@Firefly I blame the last capitalist crises on keynesianism.
what do you blame the great recession on?
@ClibtardMario I'm just trying to follow your logic.
@Sampuka Federal Reserve monetary loosening and government deficit spending
Plus some laws enacted by Clinton which increased the governments incentives on housing ownership
@ClibtardMario If people starve we do not want that and we change the system, right?
it was an interesting time because it changed economic theory so much
from neoclassical to keynes
@Firefly If people start to starve under the current system, change it to free market capitalism.
You want those people to be able to work hard and make a better life for themselves if they're not in need of immediate help by say war
@ClibtardMario In free market people never strave?
Not really @Sampuka , keynesianism has been widely used since the start of the 1970s
wait, we're talking about to different recessions then
Started by the 70s, paused a bit under Reagan (which was still fiscal populist) and then returned full speed
@Firefly Most don't.
@ClibtardMario And the rest is not free market, right?
No
Like England
Or USA
Am I tlaking about great depression then?
Yes?
america sure finds some good names
If after free market capitalism by X time there are still people out there starving, I'd rather blame FMC
Ironically though, food stamps are actually cheap and are widely recognized as an efficient welfare for FMC systems
@ClibtardMario So we blame someone if we starve under capitalism?
Blame the current system.
If it has been used by enough time though
@ClibtardMario what do you think of non-capitalist free market ideologies?
@ClibtardMario The capitalist system?
>Non-capitalist
>Free market
hahaha
>free market is what defines capitalism
wew
@Firefly It really depends about which deaths you are blaming.
America