Message from @Firefly
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@Firefly Most don't.
@ClibtardMario And the rest is not free market, right?
No
Like England
Or USA
Am I tlaking about great depression then?
Yes?
america sure finds some good names
If after free market capitalism by X time there are still people out there starving, I'd rather blame FMC
Ironically though, food stamps are actually cheap and are widely recognized as an efficient welfare for FMC systems
@ClibtardMario So we blame someone if we starve under capitalism?
Blame the current system.
If it has been used by enough time though
@ClibtardMario what do you think of non-capitalist free market ideologies?
@ClibtardMario The capitalist system?
>Non-capitalist
>Free market
hahaha
>free market is what defines capitalism
wew
@Firefly It really depends about which deaths you are blaming.
America
America isn't FMC
boi
why do all political terms have such weird meanings in america? from anarchism to libertarianism to socialism?
I don't blame capitalism because it is a far too broad of a denomination. So I just attack the specific viewpoint applied
@ClibtardMario So capitalism as a system cannot be blamed?
It can, but blaming it is too broad
can any american answer my question?
@ClibtardMario In which cases it can be blamed and in which it cannot be?
Capitalism can range from ancap to fully fledged state capitalism
Name me a situation in which a capitalistic system would lead to starvation
bad weather
I can only think of two, food shortages and your own fault
@Firefly If capitalism has been applied by enough time and there are still people suffering under it, then its capitalism fault. But I repeat myself, blame capitalism alone is too broad because then you can be blaming one or more than 10 different systems
those 10 systems share some things
@ClibtardMario so you can't blame capitalism. But you can blame socialism, right?
you can blame those
So far, I'm blaming keynesianism for 1970s stagflation, 1995-2001 bubble, 2002-2008 bubble and 2009-2017/18 bubble.
though you cant conclude
@Firefly I just said you can ffs
capitalism simply gives you the freedom, socialism puts rules on what you can and can't do