Indeed, though use of religion - like race - can support nationalist tendencies. So moving ahead it would need to be considered how it can transcend borders and how the "our race/nationality are god's people!" preachers can be cut off and outplayed so religious nationalism can be dissolved.

Which I guess comes back around to how the bourgiese can be removed from power and an international proletarian "state" can assume the helm.

Nationalist cults are sects, they can never dominate the mainstream. And again, they are too inward looking and outwardly aggressive. Cults of personality and religion are not stable.

So in the end, basically wait for the cult leader to die before moving ahead?

That's the worst case scenario. The early church just did that. They were pacifists and just waited for Rome to kill itself.

What'd I miss?

@Deleted User tfw the turning the other cheek is too strong

Sometimes doing nothing is the best cause of action. But in regards to religious people, they can afford to wait, because they have higher concerns than simple material gains in the short term.

The economic hamster wheel can sometimes go off the cliff.

The question in comparative religion is an interesting one though. Certainly, you should go with whatever religion you feel draws you the closet. But for a few people like myself, I am drawn to difference ones at the same time, and this feels like a problem. I don't know who I am. This may be a more common symptom in our time than I realise, though.

Being 'born into a religion' is not a curse, it is not an indoctrination, it is a practical favour. My parents were not very religious.

Buddhism is nice because it's applicable to about anything. It's very syncretic.

God or the concept of a God isn't important, but it isn't totally out of the question. It's adopted into itself and been adopted into plenty of religions in the far-east.

The Eastern religions are truly unlike Abrahamic ones. It is possible to be Buddhist plus anything else. Like Tengriism. You can be many things. But there is always the question of, or at least that is demanded by some, that there is one true religion and you have to decide which one it is. This tension is the most unsettling part of religious seeking.

I don't know about elsewhere, but around here the issue is more like going from church to church to find the one most comfortable or appealing to you as a person. I don't know what sort of options are avaible elsewhere. Though, at the same time around here the choice all boils down to varying degress of Christianity and it's tedious or difficult to duck into a congregation of another faith, I think there's one Buddhist monestary around here but I've never found it.

Then there's the people who drank the dogma really deep so might feel averse to someone claiming to being a Buddhist-Tengriist-Christian in their midst. It'd feel like some adhoc paganism to them and they'll be compelled to force Jesus on you.

I have to duck out a for a little bit. I will be back in 30 minutes or so if you still want to chat. This is very interesting discussion.

I literally got a pamphlet while in town one day by some random missionary that was a short comic about how we're all sinful and we need to read the Bible and live by it word-for-word and pray to Jesus so he can help absolve us of our sins when we die.

I'll probably go and play vidya games so I may be busy doing other shit by the time you do come back.

Thanks for the chat, then. I know what you mean about church shopping. But more on that next time. I hope you level up or kill the boss or whatever. Have fun.

Thank you too, and you're welcome.

Hey Chopin how have you been?

Oh, not too bad. Needed a break from the internet for a while. But I am back.

Good to hear, we all need a little break every now and then

How are things with yourself?

Very good. I went to Church for the first time in years, began praying the rosary every day, and am going to begin the process of becoming a catholic sometime this week.

Oh wow. I am so happy for you. This is an amazing thing.

This is a very long watching. But I have been going through it and taking notes. It has been a good refresher for me if you are interesting. I know you are very busy. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRgREWf4NFWZEd86aVEpQ7B3YxXPhUEf-

I'll probably take a look at it tomorrow. Thanks for sharing

I'm going to head out now, it was good talking to you though. Take care.

You seem to be doing well, at any rate. I am happy for you.

👍

Goodnight

Misereátur tui omnípotens Deus, et, dimíssis peccátis tuis, perdúcat te ad vitam ætérnam.

Lord Jesus Christ, son of God. Have mercy on me, a sinner.

**May Almighty God have mercy upon you, and your sins having been forgiven, may He bring you to eternal life.**

Eternal life is overrated.

@Firefly And you would know from experience?

What if thesoviet countercoup worked

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Then Posadism