Message from @Attila
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hi
No Huns allowed.
oh ok
Yet we allow animals like neoliberals in?
Why did I get linked this
I'm an anarcho-capitalist
You're also a gay baby lel
lol k
What led you to capitalism and Austrian economics
Who hurt you
logic, statistics, and practicality
🤔
Any specific reasons
That the state only serves to perpetuate itself and take the liberties and property of the people
While selling it as for their own good
Oh word
The power behind the upper class doesn't worry you?
Oh it does, but not because of the upper class themselves, merely their ability to lobby government into monopoly-perpetuating regulations
You don't think some monopolies tend to develop in certain industries? Or regions?
Lobbying is obviously one of the corporation's greatest strengths.
Well, without state regulation, any monopoly could only perpetuate itself by either outperforming the competition or providing the best prices. State monopolies on the other hand are maintained by regulation and force.
Private property and capitalism need to be maintained by force though anyway.
I mean you'd just have private companies acting as government, no?
No, that violates the NAP
as such
people with guns tend to stop those that use means of aggression
Guns are good. No guarantee in a world with large centralized military and nukes I suppose.
How do you define a state?
A means of involuntary control and theft maintained by force funded from said theft
As Murray Rothbard puts it, there are two ways to make capital, the *natural means*, that is to apply labor to natural resources and exchange the products of that labor, and the *political means*, that is to steal pillage and loot. The state is the organization of the political means.
You see though that lefties tend to think both the government and capitalist organizations fit that description.
The surplus labor point?
They see both as theives
A job is a voluntary agreement between employer and employee.
That "surplus labor" that lefties like to say is stolen is that of the person who puts effort into running a business, and fronts the financial risk to create one
@Apophis False, you ignore that somebody who does not own the means of production and had no initital resources has absolutely no choice but to sell his labor power to somebody above him
No, he has the choice not to, but he'll deal with the consequences of not actually working to survive