Message from @Deleted User

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2017-07-17 05:27:51 UTC  

That's what the revolution is for, to eradicate the rich

2017-07-17 05:27:59 UTC  

Death to the bourgeois.

2017-07-17 05:28:10 UTC  

>rich = bourgeois

2017-07-17 05:28:11 UTC  

See

2017-07-17 05:28:20 UTC  

That's why I despise the production class distinction

2017-07-17 05:28:23 UTC  

Seems like socialism is going great in venezuela, as riots are now very common in cities and the national guard are now shooting rioters on sight.

2017-07-17 05:28:23 UTC  

It's antequated

2017-07-17 05:28:26 UTC  

A prole can hoard

2017-07-17 05:28:30 UTC  

How is that possible

2017-07-17 05:28:37 UTC  

You'd think a bourgeois pig would hoard

2017-07-17 05:28:38 UTC  

@Deleted User >state capitalism
>socialist

2017-07-17 05:28:38 UTC  

ok

2017-07-17 05:28:59 UTC  

>everything that fails isn't mine

2017-07-17 05:28:59 UTC  

Here's a simple check to see if something is socialist

2017-07-17 05:29:02 UTC  

Venezuela didn't have a revolution. They had social reform. It doesn't work.

2017-07-17 05:29:05 UTC  

1. DO THE WORKERS OWN THE MEANS?

2017-07-17 05:29:08 UTC  

2. NO?

2017-07-17 05:29:11 UTC  

3. NOT SOCIALISM.

2017-07-17 05:29:18 UTC  

@PEWEX Try finding any "socialist" country where that happened.

2017-07-17 05:29:30 UTC  

USSR? China? Vietnam?

2017-07-17 05:29:35 UTC  

Means of production espeically now is a narrow qualification

2017-07-17 05:29:44 UTC  

It addresses nothing, and is too vague

2017-07-17 05:29:48 UTC  

The goal will never be reached that way

2017-07-17 05:29:52 UTC  

Stalin was the apex of practical socialism.

2017-07-17 05:29:56 UTC  

Not to mention Venezuela didn't even have a revolution.

2017-07-17 05:30:00 UTC  

>Stalinist Russia

2017-07-17 05:30:04 UTC  

>Workers owning anything

2017-07-17 05:30:06 UTC  

Hah!

2017-07-17 05:30:23 UTC  

@Deleted User He may have killed millions of people and preformed genocides, but at least the country lasted almost 100 years.

2017-07-17 05:30:26 UTC  

Moving towards socialism is just one step.

2017-07-17 05:30:26 UTC  

t. khrushchev

2017-07-17 05:31:47 UTC  

There was also an attempted coup detat a few weeks ago in venezuela where a member of the government was dropping explosives from a helicopter.

2017-07-17 05:32:01 UTC  

*According to the venezuelian government

2017-07-17 05:32:25 UTC  

A coup isn't a TRUE and HONEST revolution maaan you have to murder people for a real revolution!

2017-07-17 05:32:51 UTC  

>smugly implying things are what they aren't via sarcastic flawed logic to prove your point

2017-07-17 05:33:11 UTC  

Over and over, people come here and misunderstand what Communism is supposed to be, and the predictions made by Marx which shows how society must move in this direction. Moving from Capitalism to Socialism is a tendency determine by economic relations and the resolving of the tensions between the classes.

2017-07-17 05:34:02 UTC  

~~I'm not even a leftist I'm just here to shitpost, what's a communism?~~

2017-07-17 05:34:10 UTC  

Otherwise you have to say that Capitalism is the end of history and will continue forever, and the contradictions between classes will continue like this. But nothing is forever, and tensions have to confront one another.

2017-07-17 05:34:37 UTC  

The question I always forget to ask

2017-07-17 05:34:44 UTC  

Is what will replace communism?

2017-07-17 05:34:59 UTC  

Capitalism is going to last for a long, long time, whether or not it will turn out in marx's favor is hard to say.