Message from @Firefly

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2017-07-18 06:40:12 UTC  

Imagine a computer. A governing computer that takes data from the country and always ensures that every citizen has at least enough to live is not a ridiculous idea. There are a small number of people in this country that have too much of the money and there isn't a solid justification. This obviously isn't a meritocracy or you're arguing that the rich are working literally thousands of times harder than the rest of us. With automation nowadays we don't even need that many workers relatively when you look at the entire population. Just let people who wish to make additional money seek careers (with an upper income ceiling that would still be considered rich by today's standards, just not outrageously rich) and let the rest live. Capitalism isn't optimally efficient at running anything. Things become obtuse if it happens to generate capital, people gain incredible power by manipulating money and create monopoly to keep their wealth, or maybe they're born into it. Poverty just doesn't have to exist.

2017-07-18 06:49:35 UTC  

Brute force computing = good tool for the proletariat . AI = bad capitalist nightmare.

2017-07-18 06:50:45 UTC  

Everything is completely fine with both AI and force.

2017-07-18 06:52:58 UTC  

Are you anti-natalist? AI is more dangerous than nuclear weapons.

2017-07-18 06:54:05 UTC  

I think people could be one with AI or AI alone.

2017-07-18 06:54:36 UTC  

One with AI just means AI. There is no recognisable 'you' in such a merging.

2017-07-18 06:55:23 UTC  

There can be clasters and concentration points in networks.

2017-07-18 06:55:49 UTC  

Could be. But what is a piss in the sea?

2017-07-18 06:56:42 UTC  

You think people are necessary somehow right now? Lose all your hope.

2017-07-18 06:57:47 UTC  

Ants necessary? Monkeys?

2017-07-18 06:57:54 UTC  

Stars?

2017-07-18 06:58:26 UTC  

Hmmm.

2017-07-18 06:59:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/336763840924483584/post-35594-0-42384800-1458194706.png

2017-07-18 07:01:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/336764408514740227/tenor.png

2017-07-18 07:01:37 UTC  

Unless you artificially stop development people will be gone. You will have to become super-reactionary like in warhammer.

2017-07-18 07:03:18 UTC  

God-Emperor and a conquest of the universe to stop all progress.

2017-07-18 07:04:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/336765219227303946/tau_poster11.png

2017-07-18 07:07:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/336765940626882562/991136e9e57220000134945ba133ec34--tau-empire-warhammer-k.png

2017-07-18 07:08:38 UTC  

"Straightforward to singularity"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/336766196533952512/14972872866140.jpg

2017-07-18 07:10:24 UTC  

E S O T E R I C C O M M U N I S M

2017-07-18 07:10:38 UTC  

Animism?

2017-07-18 07:12:00 UTC  

isn't that just materialism though

2017-07-18 07:12:26 UTC  

being focused on technology as a means to advance us to communism

2017-07-18 07:12:56 UTC  

because material shit is everything that exists and anything that is immaterial is meaningless drivel to distract you from your inevitable death whereafter nothing exists

2017-07-18 07:14:30 UTC  

Yeah, I've already noticed technology getting smarter.

2017-07-18 07:14:49 UTC  

Fascinating, but not frightening or worrisome.

2017-07-18 07:17:27 UTC  

I think robots that think like humans would be rational enough to understand that leftists are their friends. Imagine co-existing alongside someone who is actually immune to conspiracy theories and right-wing news. My god, sounds like a friend I've always wanted.

2017-07-18 07:17:58 UTC  

I mean, not "think like humans" as in our shitty opinions and stuff

2017-07-18 07:18:24 UTC  

But since our thought processes designed them, I assume the programming would organize itself in a similar way.

2017-07-18 07:18:48 UTC  

I think Chopin worry for the destiny of people after robots become too smart.

2017-07-18 07:19:02 UTC  

And then you begin to think, maybe robots will be the ones who do the revolution for us.

2017-07-18 07:19:30 UTC  

I mean, someone will probably try a right-wing counterrevoution robot

2017-07-18 07:19:46 UTC  

(Actually that kinda already exists)

2017-07-18 07:20:06 UTC  

Coffee maker?

2017-07-18 07:20:29 UTC  

Nah, the robots with bombs that cops send in to kill people disobeying their dumbass authority.

2017-07-18 07:21:02 UTC  

Is no AI.

2017-07-18 07:21:10 UTC  

No, but it could be someday.

2017-07-18 07:21:33 UTC  

It would probably be used contemporaneously with a left-wing robot carrying out a revolution.

2017-07-18 07:21:40 UTC  

Or whatever.

2017-07-18 07:21:48 UTC  

But that's just my crazy philosophy.