it's hard to say how many labour vouchers someone gets because there are many factors that come into the decision

no, I said the slacker has his fucking needs met

how many god damn times do I have to say it

So the slacker can earn as many luxury vouchers as the hard worker?

no

if you don't work you get nothing

In Harry's model

sry no

if you don't work you get basic needs

yeah

@Stoichia21 That is the main issue when it comes to debating with subjects like this, there are so many factors that you cannot even come to a reasonable conclusion.

if you work you get more

What commie guy is saying

So what's encouraging anyone to work?

NOT STARVING

If nobody works

no food

BUT YOU GET FOOD REGARDLESS

NOT IF NOBODY IS MAKING SHIT

well tbf automation comes in a lot

WELFARE STATE

You need factories to run farms?

Fuck no

>automation

So your system is a highly futuristic projection?

it accounts for the future

because automation is inevitable

@Horse Shmeat That is how it would collapse in the end, because nobody would work if they got food regardless if they even did anything, resulting in mass starvations, and a lack of resources.

no it's just making people work less to focus on other stuff like leisure, culture or science

What if humanity had to go Dune because of AI or something? What would you do without machines?

Automation is bote inevitable and needed

both sry

So the machines do everything and you sit on your ass. Sounds like the end of humanity to me honestly

Nobody gets anything if people don't work

Johannes it would happen in capitalist society too

Of course

But, if you get food regardless of anything, what stops you from just putting your robots on auto work mode and getting free food and water?

so then why are you blaming communism

Because both systems want it

It's not that nobody does anything. People need to make the machines in the first place.

No we're talking about the future