Umm, disabled people have their needs to survive met

and don't die

@Stoichia21 Oy vey stop trying to model a meritocracy!

if he wants a teddy bear he uses vouchers

Equal wages!

Slave away for me

everybody works

@Horse Shmeat >Yhea, you may be producing more than any other farm in the commune, producing more than triple the other ones, but because the other ones are struggling with pests and disease, they are still going to be treated the same way as you.

who are you slaving for

You just said the slacker starves

Or were you replying to Danger

it's hard to say how many labour vouchers someone gets because there are many factors that come into the decision

no, I said the slacker has his fucking needs met

how many god damn times do I have to say it

So the slacker can earn as many luxury vouchers as the hard worker?

no

if you don't work you get nothing

In Harry's model

sry no

if you don't work you get basic needs

yeah

@Stoichia21 That is the main issue when it comes to debating with subjects like this, there are so many factors that you cannot even come to a reasonable conclusion.

if you work you get more

What commie guy is saying

So what's encouraging anyone to work?

NOT STARVING

If nobody works

no food

BUT YOU GET FOOD REGARDLESS

NOT IF NOBODY IS MAKING SHIT

well tbf automation comes in a lot

WELFARE STATE

You need factories to run farms?

Fuck no

>automation

So your system is a highly futuristic projection?

it accounts for the future

because automation is inevitable

@Horse Shmeat That is how it would collapse in the end, because nobody would work if they got food regardless if they even did anything, resulting in mass starvations, and a lack of resources.

no it's just making people work less to focus on other stuff like leisure, culture or science

What if humanity had to go Dune because of AI or something? What would you do without machines?