Message from @MrSally
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You clearly do
Sorry, just had to add some inflection there.
Fair enough
I'm sorry
No, it's okay.
I will end it here. I am saying that Gaddafi was allowed to exist, because the moment he wasn't useful he died. When you review the recent history of Libya it is clear that is did not have strong effect to turn others to Communism. To imperialist powers, Gaddafi was a lesser evil, because he was a basic dictator, with no effect on others, and only interested in his own land. On every level he was a very poor theoretician, because he did nothing to help the international working class. Yes, expectation is high, but because it has to be. History is a tough judge.
Isn't it less Orwellian to just say he was stupid and really easy to troll?
Yes but Dusseldorf would never understand that.
Do you support Gaddafi, Dusseldorf?
*did
@Deleted User But you're essentially calling him an imperialist based on the fact that he wasn't "assassinated sooner"
Did you say that, Chopin?
It's a silly argument to make @Deleted User
You also have to factor in the fact that the U.S. wasn't always able to Justify a war with Gaddafi
If he did not actually name Gaddafi as an imperialist, I would advise you to check your argument a little bit to make sure you aren't projecting again.
They were only able to do so in 2011 because we had reached a point to where the population had become complacent with regards to the idea of perpetual warfare
Remain on point in your dialectic.
I'm pretty sure Gaddafi was always "asking for it".
@Revolutionary Nationalist said that he was always fighting imperialism, my response that the moment he did (in not being useful) he was killed. I made the point that if he had been a good Communist, he would have his whole life to defend against Capitalist assassination. But in reality, he never had to defend against it, because he was not targeted. I am finished with this.
Communism isn't the only enemy to Liberalism
It's silly to believe so
Liberalism also killed fascism
They've also killed many other dictators who weren't communist
not to mention, you don't have to be a communist to be a socialist
Hmmm.
Honestly, I think you are confusing liberal and neoconservative.
Neoconservative is a subset of liberal
At least in the context of today.
In 2011 as well
No, it is vastly different from liberalism.
*Vastly*.
No it's not
Liberalism refers to the capitalist economic system, neoliberalism is the evolution of that. Neocons are essentially the right wing of the neoliberal establishment. That's why our only choices are neocons and neolibs
It's essentially liberalism on a global scale
Not really?
Liberal doesn't refer to capitalism specifically. Civil liberties are more important.
The Obama administration wasn't much different than the Bush administration when you look at actual policy
Civil Liberties are a spook
Stirner was a crazy fool.