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why are you guys lefties? honest question
Tell me how communism beats capitalism
No money
Automation
But you'd barter
You aren't a wage slave
After you barter one might barter more to get ahead of other people
If everything is publicly owned and accessible, barter would be meaningless.
Would you stand next to a public drinking fountain and demand people to trade to use it? No, that would tell you get fucked.
Communism requires a few massive Deus Ex Machinas
Face it it's a pipe dream
contained inside its own little logic bubble it works perfectly but it's not applicable in real life
"Hurr Durr get rid of money and make robots and everyone will live together in peace and harmony"
It is based on material observations, and social tensions between classes to motivate a movement toward Socialism.
there is a far far end goal and nothing until then
You can deny that it would happen this way, but you cannot deny that these class tensions exist. So how *will* they be resolved in the future?
by teaching people that they can't have everything like the greedy cunts they are
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the only way you could theoretically get rid of class is to kill all the people you don't want or need
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At least you're thinking about it.
You break up the nation
Into communes
In the food business people have great recipes and so they think they should scale it up and mass produce
but it turns out that for a lot of recipes they just don't scale up
No, you need a strong Socialism government to protect the gains of the workers and fight back against capitalist powers.
There are always going to be the plebs and there are always going to be people better than the plebs
removing money doesn't remove supply and demand, why should people work for other people except this time receiving no money?
Why should people work and all they produce be aquired by the state and given to other people?
They have to.
The workers have no choice but to work once they are free from exploitation. There is lots of work to be done. Otherwise they will slip back into capitalism which could happen, but it would also return back to class tensions and the process would repeat over and over until the workers get their shit together.
That just sounds like slavery with extra steps
No, it is freedom from slavery. But freedom isn't easy for someone not prepared for it. Which is why the Socialist state has to play a leading role in preparing the workers for their freedom.
That just sounds liek Slavery with extra steps
"You are free but not entirely, you must work tirelessly for the cause with no compensation for your work"
I don't see how it is slavery. There is no more economic exploitation. The workers own the production.