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2017-07-22 01:27:45 UTC  

Would you stand next to a public drinking fountain and demand people to trade to use it? No, that would tell you get fucked.

2017-07-22 01:29:34 UTC  

Communism requires a few massive Deus Ex Machinas

2017-07-22 01:29:53 UTC  

Face it it's a pipe dream

2017-07-22 01:30:16 UTC  

contained inside its own little logic bubble it works perfectly but it's not applicable in real life

2017-07-22 01:30:39 UTC  

"Hurr Durr get rid of money and make robots and everyone will live together in peace and harmony"

2017-07-22 01:30:43 UTC  

It is based on material observations, and social tensions between classes to motivate a movement toward Socialism.

2017-07-22 01:31:03 UTC  

there is a far far end goal and nothing until then

2017-07-22 01:31:27 UTC  

You can deny that it would happen this way, but you cannot deny that these class tensions exist. So how *will* they be resolved in the future?

2017-07-22 01:32:07 UTC  

by teaching people that they can't have everything like the greedy cunts they are

2017-07-22 01:32:32 UTC  

Wew

2017-07-22 01:32:48 UTC  

the only way you could theoretically get rid of class is to kill all the people you don't want or need

2017-07-22 01:32:55 UTC  

make a small enough society

2017-07-22 01:33:09 UTC  

OR

2017-07-22 01:33:10 UTC  

ORO

2017-07-22 01:33:11 UTC  

OR

2017-07-22 01:33:12 UTC  

OR

2017-07-22 01:33:12 UTC  

At least you're thinking about it.

2017-07-22 01:33:16 UTC  

You break up the nation

2017-07-22 01:33:26 UTC  

Into communes

2017-07-22 01:33:36 UTC  

In the food business people have great recipes and so they think they should scale it up and mass produce

2017-07-22 01:33:50 UTC  

but it turns out that for a lot of recipes they just don't scale up

2017-07-22 01:33:54 UTC  

No, you need a strong Socialism government to protect the gains of the workers and fight back against capitalist powers.

2017-07-22 01:35:44 UTC  

There are always going to be the plebs and there are always going to be people better than the plebs

2017-07-22 01:36:18 UTC  

removing money doesn't remove supply and demand, why should people work for other people except this time receiving no money?

2017-07-22 01:36:42 UTC  

Why should people work and all they produce be aquired by the state and given to other people?

2017-07-22 01:37:00 UTC  

They have to.

2017-07-22 01:38:42 UTC  

The workers have no choice but to work once they are free from exploitation. There is lots of work to be done. Otherwise they will slip back into capitalism which could happen, but it would also return back to class tensions and the process would repeat over and over until the workers get their shit together.

2017-07-22 01:39:21 UTC  

That just sounds like slavery with extra steps

2017-07-22 01:40:17 UTC  

No, it is freedom from slavery. But freedom isn't easy for someone not prepared for it. Which is why the Socialist state has to play a leading role in preparing the workers for their freedom.

2017-07-22 01:41:00 UTC  

That just sounds liek Slavery with extra steps

2017-07-22 01:41:33 UTC  

"You are free but not entirely, you must work tirelessly for the cause with no compensation for your work"

2017-07-22 01:41:36 UTC  

I don't see how it is slavery. There is no more economic exploitation. The workers own the production.

2017-07-22 01:41:45 UTC  

sounds like slavery to me

2017-07-22 01:42:27 UTC  

Everything seems like slavery to you. When you wake up out of bed and wash yourself, are you enslaved by your own needs? No.

2017-07-22 01:42:35 UTC  

You have to do it.

2017-07-22 01:42:42 UTC  

gee golly i'm glad there's no more economic exploitation, it's much easier to just cope with pure exploitation

2017-07-22 01:43:18 UTC  

again, you're still explaining slavery

2017-07-22 01:43:26 UTC  

Well, this is the future, based on resolving the class conflict.

2017-07-22 01:43:42 UTC  

"You have to brush your teeth every morning thus you must work for us with no compensation"

2017-07-22 01:43:55 UTC  

Compensation?

2017-07-22 01:44:13 UTC  

Compensate me for scratching my nuts, please.