But the surplus value goes directly to the workers. They own everything.

and thus they own nothing

Why is private ownership so important?

if you fuckers dont ban me i swear to god im just going to leave

ban me pussies

Slaves were given food, water, clothing, possesions and yet they were still slaves

you wont

But they slaves were exploited. Their surplus value when to the slaver owner.

they were slaves because they werent allowed to leave

and all of your labour, not even just the surplus is going to other people under your preferred system

everything you make is taken from you

Anyway, you don't seem to grasp the basic idea that poor people are always going to be pissed. Unless you give them what they want, you have to oppress them for eternity, which is not feasible. But you're welcome to try.

Did someone say picking Cotton?

Of course poors are going to be pissed if you tell them they deserve to live like kings

I have two questions regarding communism.

receiving compensation for your labour is you owning it

It's not about what you tell them. All oppressed peoples in history revolt.

from a collectivised perspective giving everything to the people is freedom but in truth nobody gets anything

nobody has choice

Why not?

the individuality is stripped away

Does free will really exist?

That is not very scientific.

of course it fucking does

and all your utopia does is strip it away and put everything on rails

Haha, does it?

can you save up, quit your job and decide to go live overseas for a year?

that sounds pretty free to me

Depends on which stage.

but of course if you do that commisar Boris will have to put you in your place for not contributing to your share of the labour

Early or Late Socialism, which is then predicted to move into Communism.

Eventually you will have more freedom than under capitalism.

Capitalism actually stifles progress.

Because it focuses on profit, which can be antagonistic to progress.

That actually sounds pretty great

Okay mate, have a good one.

I can just imagine these words above a gate, "Work sets you free"

That's bloody great.

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Work hard enough and one day your work will set you free

Sounds great.