Message from @Luka.

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2017-07-26 15:13:05 UTC  

Heb 12:14

2017-07-26 15:13:21 UTC  

***meta evidence intensifies***

2017-07-26 15:13:36 UTC  

1 John 1:7b

2017-07-26 15:13:39 UTC  

Jam 3:2

2017-07-26 15:13:50 UTC  

Austin 3:16

2017-07-26 15:13:55 UTC  

Jam 1:14-15

2017-07-26 15:14:10 UTC  

<:merchant:323550879749898242>

2017-07-26 15:14:27 UTC  

Timothy 2:12

2017-07-26 15:15:46 UTC  

1 John 2:2
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Hebrews 10:14
…because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

1 Corinthians 6:11
But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Hebrews 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high

Romans 5:9
Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him!

John 5:24
“I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life”.

2017-07-26 15:16:17 UTC  

purgatory does not exist, it is fundamentally contradicted by the nature of salvation in the bible itself

2017-07-26 15:16:21 UTC  

"Hebrews"?

2017-07-26 15:16:37 UTC  

If you are trying to be cute, it's not working. I am a drone in the corporation.

2017-07-26 15:16:38 UTC  

It does exist

2017-07-26 15:16:51 UTC  

I've given you plenty of verses

2017-07-26 15:17:28 UTC  

>commies arguing about religion

2017-07-26 15:17:29 UTC  

You will have to read to the councils on purgatory to decide for yourself.

2017-07-26 15:17:31 UTC  

Mt 12:36

2017-07-26 15:17:42 UTC  

I don't even remember which one it is.

2017-07-26 15:17:45 UTC  

You will account for every idle word

2017-07-26 15:17:51 UTC  

it's time for the patriarch of the west to stop being a reformist

2017-07-26 15:17:54 UTC  

What's it like in purgatory?

2017-07-26 15:18:30 UTC  

I don't know

2017-07-26 15:18:37 UTC  

Purgatory is place of penance. It's not nice. But you get to go out. That is your only hope. And hope is the only current.

2017-07-26 15:18:58 UTC  

"Not nice"

2017-07-26 15:18:59 UTC  

Elaborate.

2017-07-26 15:19:17 UTC  

You tell me. What is your human sense of 'making up for mistakes'?

2017-07-26 15:19:26 UTC  

Depends on the mistake.

2017-07-26 15:19:31 UTC  

That's right.

2017-07-26 15:19:47 UTC  

Ultimately, do you atone for the ultimate effect of your actions or for your decisions?

2017-07-26 15:19:48 UTC  

Add up your mistake then work them off, but do it spiritually.

2017-07-26 15:20:00 UTC  

So, if you raped you get raped back?

2017-07-26 15:20:27 UTC  

You could kill a man without knowing, which is a sin but not one you can atone for

2017-07-26 15:20:35 UTC  

And you didn't decide to do so

2017-07-26 15:20:39 UTC  

And what if you murder?

2017-07-26 15:20:41 UTC  

😒

2017-07-26 15:20:47 UTC  

You get tortured the same method you murdered?

2017-07-26 15:20:52 UTC  

But you don't die, just feel everything.

2017-07-26 15:21:17 UTC  

Murder is not the same as manslaughter, and that ruling is derived from the Church, if you didn't know.

2017-07-26 15:21:43 UTC  

Then how does one get punished?

2017-07-26 15:21:51 UTC  

If they murdered?

2017-07-26 15:21:52 UTC  

It depends on ignorance.