Message from @Luka.

Discord ID: 339789421685506059


2017-07-26 15:17:51 UTC  

it's time for the patriarch of the west to stop being a reformist

2017-07-26 15:17:54 UTC  

What's it like in purgatory?

2017-07-26 15:18:30 UTC  

I don't know

2017-07-26 15:18:37 UTC  

Purgatory is place of penance. It's not nice. But you get to go out. That is your only hope. And hope is the only current.

2017-07-26 15:18:58 UTC  

"Not nice"

2017-07-26 15:18:59 UTC  

Elaborate.

2017-07-26 15:19:17 UTC  

You tell me. What is your human sense of 'making up for mistakes'?

2017-07-26 15:19:26 UTC  

Depends on the mistake.

2017-07-26 15:19:31 UTC  

That's right.

2017-07-26 15:19:47 UTC  

Ultimately, do you atone for the ultimate effect of your actions or for your decisions?

2017-07-26 15:19:48 UTC  

Add up your mistake then work them off, but do it spiritually.

2017-07-26 15:20:00 UTC  

So, if you raped you get raped back?

2017-07-26 15:20:27 UTC  

You could kill a man without knowing, which is a sin but not one you can atone for

2017-07-26 15:20:35 UTC  

And you didn't decide to do so

2017-07-26 15:20:39 UTC  

And what if you murder?

2017-07-26 15:20:41 UTC  

😒

2017-07-26 15:20:47 UTC  

You get tortured the same method you murdered?

2017-07-26 15:20:52 UTC  

But you don't die, just feel everything.

2017-07-26 15:21:17 UTC  

Murder is not the same as manslaughter, and that ruling is derived from the Church, if you didn't know.

2017-07-26 15:21:43 UTC  

Then how does one get punished?

2017-07-26 15:21:51 UTC  

If they murdered?

2017-07-26 15:21:52 UTC  

It depends on ignorance.

2017-07-26 15:22:23 UTC  

What if you murder someone but forget it due to amnesia before confessing and atoning?

2017-07-26 15:22:48 UTC  

you get send to the fantasy realm of purgatory

2017-07-26 15:23:31 UTC  

How good is your amnesia? Probably does account for every mark. If you fully repent, you have a chance. If you don't, it's upto God (not good).

2017-07-26 15:23:42 UTC  

What if someone gives you drugs that make you want to kill someone?
You didn't take the drugs voluntariy, but murder someone "voluntarily".

2017-07-26 15:24:07 UTC  

It depends on your ignorance.

2017-07-26 15:24:13 UTC  

I am repeating.

2017-07-26 15:24:22 UTC  

(not good)

2017-07-26 15:24:24 UTC  

So..

2017-07-26 15:24:27 UTC  

God's decisions are bad?

2017-07-26 15:24:34 UTC  

Is that what you try to say?

2017-07-26 15:24:39 UTC  

obviously the person who gave you those drugs are going to hell.

2017-07-26 15:24:42 UTC  

His decisions are harsh

2017-07-26 15:24:50 UTC  

That's whats being said

2017-07-26 15:24:51 UTC  

"going to hell" is a catholic expression though.

2017-07-26 15:24:58 UTC  

Yeah, he decided to create the human race.

2017-07-26 15:25:00 UTC  

God's decision is just. Meaning if you be a fuckhead, expect to be treated as such, if you reject Him.

2017-07-26 15:25:02 UTC  

That was a harsh punishment.

2017-07-26 15:25:24 UTC  

Going to hell is what happens to sinners

2017-07-26 15:25:30 UTC  

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