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but the point is they were foreign fighters
and it didnt cause them any problems
was quite a benefit actually
They were influenced by money
they had no real reason to care for the stability of the state
they had no connection to the empire
other than a contract
yet they sustained it until the crusades destroyed it
the byzantine empire that is
They weren't truly the roman empire
they were just a bastard offspring
the real empire, the real thing died in the 400s
yes but my point is that its not fair to just say foreign fighters (like roman allae) were the reason for rome's downfall
it was that combined with the circumstance of a mass migration and woefully ill prepared geography to repell it
Yep
Culture clash
two words
sums that whole thing up
and that is what delivered the blow
Multiculturalism is a culture clash
you know rome is the oldest state in world history
but sometimses it can be extreme
except for like switzerland I guess
oldest large power
Rome was only that by circumstance
it was over 800 years old (western rome) at its downfall
not because of their multiculturalism
not multiculturalism
no
very roman centric culture
Exactly
but it was because of their lack of ethnocentrism
they simply couldnt have done it
if they viewed themselves as an ethnic people
the roman empire didn't fall until 1453 though 🤔
they wouldnt have had the manpower
felt western rome fell in 400s
Yep I don't disagree
But still roman empire
Eastern half