But those theories fall short of meeting reality, more and more as time passes.

Both don't work, but for different reasons.

They don't work because nothing works. The idea of political theory as a system of thought is fundamentally flawed.

@Deleted User this nigga speak the truth praise be he!

@Deleted User whats funny is i was debating my socialist friend, and he said Socialism has nothing to do with economics, but with preserving rights or something

NatSoc is mutually exclusive with war

Yup

*isn't

A state doesn't need war to exist

The way NatSoc is structured makes conflict inevitable.

Howcome

@Magically Delicious Explain how Nat Soc wont work.

Bravado, aggression, militaristic ideas... pretty simple.

so?

@Deleted User Scroll upi klaus

Aggression is a nessecity.

Ok, but declaring open war is different from patriotism

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Different but strong relationship.

A NatSoc state technically will only ever encompass it's own people anyway

Exactly

That's part of the antagonism.

so not unless there are millions of people from the same ethnicity living somewhere else

they won't declare war

They can't help themselves.

@Deleted User just look at Nazi germany, eventually at a certain point people would hate being fed the same nonsense, and rise up against the regime

These are big if's

I'm just showing you the patterns and examples we have from history.

@Deleted User Exactly

They all share these characteristics

@Deleted User they want to control people's personal lives?

Nazi Germany isn't representative of what every National Socialist state would look like

they were a special case

>not real fascism

Okay buddy

They were definitely real fascism

@Deleted User how about Fascist Italiano

and real national socialism

Call me when we have an example.

But the point i'm trying to make is

They had ethnic germans living in poland