Message from @Deleted User
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They were definitely real fascism
@Deleted User how about Fascist Italiano
and real national socialism
Call me when we have an example.
But the point i'm trying to make is
They had ethnic germans living in poland
and had former borders there
now that pushed them to war
whilst a country morelike say australia
wouldn't have the same outcome
or NZ
Or America @Deleted User
Yea exactly
The problem is ur trying to draw borders for certain ethnic groups
IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE LAGISTICALLY
It did for thousands of years
TO me this is stronger speculation than trying to understand it from living examples. It just not scientific otherwise.
The future is also not some infinite possibility, the cause and effect, the conditions of history also determine the future.
@Deleted User true
They were bound to fail anyway because it disrupted the balance of power in europe and thus Britain and France would've wanted to disable them regardless
You hit the nail on the head.
Btw was Emperial Japan fascist, @Deleted User & @Deleted User?
Idk would like ur opinions
No, I think they were more of a monarchy
But like explain
They were bound the fail. Often political idelogues ignore the fact that their adopted system is not forever, perfect etc.
Could u not have fascism with a monarchy?
But if people would've not intervened with them
@Deleted User yeah true
they would've succeeded
They weren't a timebomb ticking to fail
Japan shouldn't have surrendered. The Emperor made a mistake.
I mean a pure capitalist society isnt perfect, if u introduce it too quickly, the economy might collapse
Like it did in Chile
So we all agree their downfall was a direct result from foreign intervention?
@Deleted User pretty much
No, in terms of governance, the military technocrats didn't want to surrender, but the Emperor was scared into it by his advisor rats.
Altho
U have to consider they attacked America, so that mightve put them in a weak spot
@Magically Delicious It's not an ideological fault then