The problem is ur trying to draw borders for certain ethnic groups

IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE LAGISTICALLY

It did for thousands of years

TO me this is stronger speculation than trying to understand it from living examples. It just not scientific otherwise.

The future is also not some infinite possibility, the cause and effect, the conditions of history also determine the future.

@Deleted User true

They were bound to fail anyway because it disrupted the balance of power in europe and thus Britain and France would've wanted to disable them regardless

it wasn't a direct response from their own ideology

You hit the nail on the head.

Btw was Emperial Japan fascist, @Deleted User & @Deleted User?

Idk would like ur opinions

No, I think they were more of a monarchy

But like explain

They were bound the fail. Often political idelogues ignore the fact that their adopted system is not forever, perfect etc.

Could u not have fascism with a monarchy?

But if people would've not intervened with them

@Deleted User yeah true

they would've succeeded

They weren't a timebomb ticking to fail

Japan shouldn't have surrendered. The Emperor made a mistake.

I mean a pure capitalist society isnt perfect, if u introduce it too quickly, the economy might collapse

Like it did in Chile

So we all agree their downfall was a direct result from foreign intervention?

@Deleted User pretty much

No, in terms of governance, the military technocrats didn't want to surrender, but the Emperor was scared into it by his advisor rats.

Altho

U have to consider they attacked America, so that mightve put them in a weak spot

@Magically Delicious It's not an ideological fault then

Japan was ready to make chemical weapon attack on USA.

O ok @Deleted User

@Deleted User true but how did they fail then?

I used to be a Fascist, but I realised that it was just a storm in a teacup. At that time I just wanted to die and see the world burn.

@Deleted User wow so what are u now?

And also how did u become a Fascist?

The Emperor surrendered, and because he was seen as a god, they had to honor it.

National Socialism has the same goal as Communism

Fascism feels good.

But nowadays I'm just a bitter fuckup.

They both seek to create an ideal society

so it isn't a far stretch for people who seek idealism to attend to

@Deleted User true