Message from @Baathsalts
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Speaking how is exactly Bukharinism different from the Titoism?
Greetings shitlords.
I'm waiting for your arguments against communism.
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@Deleted User
it can never work.
😐 What do you mean 'work'? It's a progression.
Real communism has never been tried
Technically, that's correct. Not only because it is a post-socialist society, but also because it is global.
One of this communisms haven't been tried.
@National Trotskyist You know why?
There's also a difference between practice of 'communist theory' towards this goal, which includes revolutions and socialism and everything up to communism, and the other which is pretending to be 'communist' as if it is an achievable goal overnight with reforms etc like succdems suggest. That latter is wrong and retarded, see above graphic.
@Firefly Why? True, left communism has never been tried
Lenin called it an infantile disorder
@National Trotskyist It's getting worse in the West. Now is pure autism.
hmm
[10:57] Album Alis: And identify more with their faith, one which is not American in it's nature, Juadism. Sure, some are all American and stuff. I also understand the importance of your faith. But the nation should be something you idenify with first, and not your international faith.
[10:58] Little Red Bat: What
[10:58] Little Red Bat: All faiths are as "American" as any other.
[10:58] Little Red Bat: That's kind of the point.
[10:58] Album Alis: Also... I just don't agree with immigration in the first place. We can all make our fatherlands and motherlands if we stay behind to fight for them.
[10:58] Starbee: Iiiii...disagree?
[10:58] Album Alis: ..Also, no?
[10:58] Album Alis: American faiths boil down to Christianity.
[10:58] Little Red Bat: Lol no
[10:58] Starbee: Yeah. Nah.
[10:58] Little Red Bat: America is explicitly NON-Christian
[10:58] Album Alis: Americans cna have many different faiths.
[10:58] Album Alis: No, our consitution is.
[10:59] Album Alis: Our state is.
[10:59] Starbee: I'm pretty American. I grew up all over America. I'm a Buddhist < w>
[10:59] Little Red Bat: Our founding principles.
[10:59] Album Alis: But our society is explicately Christian.
[10:59] Starbee: Nnno. Its not.
[10:59] Album Alis: Okay.
[10:59] Starbee: Actually its explicitly NOT Christian.
[10:59] Album Alis: Good for you.
[10:59] Little Red Bat: If you're saying there is some kind of American identity that is explicitly Christian, then I call that a bastardised corruption of America.
[10:59] Starbee: There are so many roadblocks to America being a Christian nation.
[10:59] Starbee: I dont know how you could think that.
[10:59] Little Red Bat: A betrayal of our founding principles.
[10:59] Album Alis: No.
[11:00] Album Alis: It is not.
[11:00] Little Red Bat: It really is.
[11:00] Album Alis: There is a specific seperation between society and state.
[11:00] Album Alis: The people are not the state.
[11:00] Album Alis: We are a Christian people, especially historically.
[11:00] Starbee: And there is a specific seperation of CHURCH and state.
[11:00] Album Alis: As simple as that.
[11:00] Starbee: We are not a Christian people.
[11:00] Starbee: You know how I know we're not a Christian people?
[11:00] Album Alis: Sure. We can have a seperation of Church adn State.
[11:01] Slik Cinnibar: No...apparently we can't
[11:01] Starbee: Because I can go expouse the glory of Satan infront of my city hall without being arrested.
[11:01] Album Alis: Because born Americans can be not Christian.
[11:01] Album Alis: But people will most definately look down on you.
[11:01] Slik Cinnibar: Because that is the impression the so-called Born-Again Christians always seem to leave me with when they open their fucking mouths.
[11:01] Little Red Bat: I would say no one is BORN with a religion.
[11:01] Album Alis: I said born Americans.
[11:01] Album Alis: Not born Christians.
[11:01] Starbee: Album
[11:02] Starbee: Who the hell are these 'most people' who look down on you for not being Christian.
[11:02] Album Alis: Praising Satan is just wrong.
[11:02] Album Alis: Any person would know that.
(Just read this shit chat log)
But it hurts.
I know
then they moved onto attack CHristianity
and callling it shit
I'm giving more
[11:02] Album Alis: Praising Satan is just wrong.
[11:02] Album Alis: Any person would know that.
[11:02] Starbee: Thats your opinion.
[11:02] Athena Parthenos: what the
[11:02] Little Red Bat: No more wrong than praising God.
[11:02] Album Alis: No, it is a human fact.
[11:02] Starbee: "any person." How about Satanists xD?
[11:03] Album Alis: Every single human hates the insulting of the ideal of a God.
[11:03] Starbee: God doesn't exist.
[11:03] Little Red Bat: I don't
[11:03] Starbee: BAM. That didn't taste bad to say :I
[11:03] Starbee: So.
[11:03] Album Alis: Be they atheists or Christians, they never want to say blasphemous phrases.
[11:03] Album Alis: It is cause you've distanced yourself from your natural response to shut the hell up and not say that.
[11:03] Starbee: Sure we do :I
[11:03] Starbee: What kinda drugs are you doin'?
[11:03] Little Red Bat: I wouldn't want to be RUDE, but I don't accept that "blasphemy" is a thing, so how can I not like blasphemous phrases?
[11:04] Album Alis: I'm on science.
[11:04] Starbee: "America is Christian, Satan is bad, Nobody likes to diss god and i'm a scientist"
[11:04] Album Alis: There have been studies into the mind of faithful and atheistic people.
[11:04] Album Alis: Blasphemy is naturally a unattractive thing for human beings.
[11:04] Athena Parthenos: I wonder sometimes what Mark Lamarr does these days
[11:04] Starbee: Ooo, the elusive and mysterious "studies"
[11:04] Album Alis: No.
[11:04] Little Red Bat: I don't accept blasphemy is even a THING.
[11:04] Starbee: I love Blasphemy.
[11:04] Album Alis: I can provide yo with a good video on it.
[11:05] Album Alis: It is.
[11:05] Album Alis: Just like your beloved state defination.
[11:05] Little Red Bat: If there isn't a god, there isn't blasphemy.
[11:05] Starbee: I have six Manson albums to prove my love of Blasphemy :I
[11:05] Album Alis: I'm not here so two people can just rail on me, hold on. Let me get the video.
[11:06] Little Red Bat: I'm not going to watch a video on it.
[11:06] Starbee is going to need a shower to wash off the edgelordness he has to invoke to put down this nonsense.
[11:06] Album Alis: It can explain it ten fold better then I.
[11:06] Album Alis: What?
[11:06] Athena Parthenos: forget the video, shiv the studies
[11:06] Little Red Bat: If you need a video to explain it, then you don't understand it yourself.
[11:06] Starbee: I'll watch the video if its like...short.
[11:06] Starbee: But i'll probably tear it to pieces. So.
[11:06] Starbee: Bring it.
[11:06] Album Alis: It is 12 minutes.
[11:06] Starbee: Eh. Good enough.
[11:07] Album Alis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ii-bsrHB0o
[11:07] Starbee: Oh good. Philosophy. The dead practice of making up stupid bullshit to logically explain things without actually having to have a true preface.
[11:08] Little Red Bat: Is atheism a delusion. What the fuck is this.
[11:08] Starbee: My guess is this is going to be an ontological arguement.
[11:08] Ganguro Mitsuru: Not well said, philosophy is valid
[11:08] Little Red Bat: I love how Betteridge's Law applies for youtube videos too :P
[11:09] Starbee: True-believing Christians are pretty incapable of wrapping their heads around a god-less universe. Even if they understand the logical arguements against it, their ontology simply prevents them from getting around it.
[11:09] Athena Parthenos: Seems to some irrelevant studies linked in the description
[11:09] Starbee: However, what this fails to account for is the same thing in Atheists.
[11:09] Album Alis: GOODNESS FUCK LISTEN TO THE VIDEO YOUR SNOBBY CHILD
[11:09] Album Alis: ...
[11:09] Little Red Bat: I literally CAN'T due to bandwidth constraints.
[11:09] Ganguro Mitsuru: Christianity owns. Atheism on the other hand, well
[11:10] Little Red Bat: But I sure as shit wouldn't anyway.
[11:10] Starbee: No matter how you explain deism to me, even if it might make some logical sense, there is absolutely no way to convince me a god might exist. My ontology totally prevents me from believing in one.
[11:10] Album Alis: Sorry,
[11:10] Ganguro Mitsuru: Christianity's most famous dude: literally the savior of the world, and a cool guy who died.
[11:10] Album Alis: That is simply wrong.
[11:10] Starbee: Jesus did die pretty cool :I
[11:10] Little Red Bat: If he existed.
[11:10] Ganguro Mitsuru: Atheism's most famous dude: a guy best known for inserting a banana up his ass and pouring coffee on his balls when not screeching over video games and fast food
[11:10] Starbee: My 'god' died of fucking food poisoning.
[11:10] Starbee: So lame - 3-
[11:10] Ganguro Mitsuru: you be the judge
[11:10] Athena Parthenos: what did he save
[11:11] Ganguro Mitsuru: hahaha yeah buddha went out like a bitch but that's classic buddha, doesnt wanna make a fuss
[11:11] Ganguro Mitsuru: just ok, im gonna die now, dont make it into a thing
[11:11] Starbee: Yeah
[11:11] Starbee: Buddha was all "I'm not feeling well guys. Peace - 3-~"
[11:11] Athena Parthenos: what about that fifth guru for the sikhs, boiled alive so hindus can go free
[11:11] Starbee: Arhats be like "NOOOOOO DX! COME BACK!"
[11:12] Athena Parthenos: then some went the extra jesus mile and raised armies and overthrew oppressive regimes
[11:12] Athena Parthenos: that seems more world savey, than just dying
[11:12] Athena Parthenos: then you got krishna that comes and fires his magic disc at demons
[11:12] Starbee: Yeah. Im watching this video. These arguments kill themselves so quickly...
[11:13] Little Red Bat: Betteridge's Law: Any headline that poses itself as a question, can be answered with 'no'
[11:13] Starbee: The dude is all "We know Children aren't treating god like an imaginary friend, because children can distinguish imaginary friends from real things, our study concludes. It only takes a little temptation to make children believe the imaginary thing is real."
[11:13] Album Alis: You're simply wrong.
[11:13] Little Red Bat: If the video maker had ANY kind of compelling argument, it would be called "Atheism IS a delusion and I can prove it"
[11:13] Album Alis: You're not answering the points.
[11:13] Starbee: And im like "...Well...yeah, you just said they needed temptation. You just debunked your own idea."
[11:14] Starbee: Im flabbergasted.
[11:16] Starbee: The final point of this video just seems to be 'If you're not really very skeptical and you don't care much about this and you're prone to the aesthetics of an idea without bothering to think about it (LIKE MOST PEOPLE) you can be made to pretty much believe anything.'
[11:16] Starbee: What else is new.
Why did I read that 😢
Cause they are shit human beings.
Yes.
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I just learned from leftypol that Sonic Boom (blue hands) cartoon has parodied Chris-chan, wtf woke as fuck