USSR, Venezuela, China back when they were doing retarded shit with agriculture, Zimbabwe has some hack socialist shite of blaming the people that produce the food for all their problems. Cambodia. Googled "socialism and mass starvation" in google and got few names

but with Nazis, they seem to understand the details of that which they oppose (Judaism, Jewish influence et al) extremely acutely, whereas capitalists are one of the only political groups I can think of that understand neither their opponent's views nor their own

Independence ain't free.

Fascists only have to take the wheel, Socialists have to reinvent it. Marxism is for professionals only.

Why would you reinvent the wheel in the first place?

It's broke.

to address all of that would take some time I imagine you don't want to invest, but in short the USSR 's food shortages problems occurred due to a number of reasons (a salient one being the white army's sabotaging grain yields), but incidentally once the mode of production was fully changed over come the 1940's, the USSR never had another famine

So if the wheel on your bike breaks you have to design an entirely new form of pedal powered transportation instead of fixing the wheel/getting a new wheel of similar make

I think it'll be with square wheels

The super bike

The design is flawed to begin with. There are class tensions which need to be fixed.

Venezuela also cannot be pinned down to just one reason, though the manipulation of currency rates (bolivars being worth a lot less on the black market) on the part of government officials has played its role, as well as an easily-manipulable and haphazard oil industry

as for China, I'll have to confess ignorance on that front, and instead ask you to elaborate specifically why you think China's change of mode of production directly resulted in starvation/famine

It... Didn't?

tbh china I think is just china being china

ah well hey-ho

Birds seem annoying, government says remove birds. WHy are insects eating all the crop

That kind of thing

the famines in China were happening before even the last dynasty was overthrown.

Maos way of dealing with it was terrible and he criticized himself for it later

In what regard can that be attributed to a change to a socialist mode of production?

but it also ended with him

the Yellow river has many nicknames

a curse is one of them

tbh I'm attributing it to china being china

Hearing stories about chinese civil wars and the fuckups that cost a lot of lives is always fun

as scintillating as this talk has been, it's getting pretty late over here guys, so I'll call it a night

stay safe chaps

To this day I don't understand Mao's hatred of sparrows

Today they're mostly extinct everywhere. When I was young I was seen them travelling with pigeons, but now they're gone

tbh the x has flaws argument implies that socialism has no flaws

@Shaggy Blanco Sorry, what was your fucking argument again? Warhammer or something?

But that reminds me during Polish communism we were told to remove Colorado potato beetles, propaganda said they were spread by NATO like chemtrails today

According to the far left

I am not a challanging thinker

That is, CPR is not.

But instead, she is subversive.

Everything has flaws m8, you don't reinvent the wheel because it could roll away

from skimming this convo dude was obviously using warhammer as an ANALOGY

>muh metaphor

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