Message from @Anglican
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in no holy text is it not blasphemous to make a material criticism of the church.
Why should it come before social freedoms? Political ones? Why does economic freedom amtter?
No.
It is a freedom to do whatever you can afford.
You moron.
positive is subjective
It is a negative freedom.
No, this is an objective way of looking at it.
Well you make it so
Negative doesn't refer to bed here.
*bad
economic freedom is a positive influence either way
It means that you are free to do what you can afford/do by your own power
while positive freedom is the freedom to something greater.
economic freedom breeds what we call the "Civic Religion" which has led to today's current predicament.
Hope, happiness.
literally doesn't matter
both sides strive for idealism
pick one over the other
Freedom to faith and patriotism is a positive freedom.
who made up these definitions?
It is simple; postive freedoms are those of quality and of real importance. Negatives are not. They are primal.
it isn't necessary at all
it's self explanatory
Sorry, do I have to say every single time their definations?
what?
you should
I mean
it isn't his job to educate himself
I don't understand how this got into a discussion of positive and negative freedoms
silly to define such things
if you make a claim, you support it, if it needs definition, one should define it. it's not the task of your opponent to do this.
it is entirely subjective
It doesn't mean bad or good.
value is objective
Okay, come on buddy. Let us talk.
shouldn't have negative or positive on it then
Starting with negative freedoms; it is the freedoms which libertarians/anarchists generally want when they aren't on the left.
It is a freedom to do what you want to do if you have the ability.
I already know this