Anyway it's not like the government and party are separated or 2 people @Timo)))

The Party and People are One

no it's not

I for sure am not a part of that kind of party

It's like self management

that type of party can die for all i care

it's not the people

Private security until you reach communism of course

:wink:

Private security is irrelevant in a socialist state

Because private corporations are illegal

Its the matter of founding your own family commune in a capitalist society

Communes can be capitalist you know

It's just where people collectively work together on the same project

What if someone in your family wants to escape your commune?

the party and the people are one, some 1984 type feel i get from that

@Valtiel shot on sight

shoot them for their own best will

Ah, correct answer. I would say rape them but that would be incest

Communes are bad

Benefit of the commune, greater good

Make it an example

Jk

Having a commune in a capitalist state is stupid though

It's leaving other people to suffer while your family gains

Not very socialist in my opinion

you can do volunteer work

no ones stopping you

One could say in fact, capitalist

Build a functional socialist commune, people will see the strive and follow by example and it will spread to the point of covering the entire state. That is how you get socialism without a violent revolution

Black people have communes, that's why many never leave the ghetto

That's not how it works because profit is to be made

Best to then spill blood for your utopia then?

Utopia?

If you can't convince people by setting a good example or debate your idea is shit

That's not how capitalism came to power

It came to power through a revolution

You always lose the communist people the moment you use the buzzword 'utopia' , this converation is doomed from now on

You're arguing against setting a good example

So what do you propose?

So it's stupid to say "let's have a debate and let's all set up our economy based on a debate"