Message from @Timo)))

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2017-08-09 12:18:59 UTC  

that's to keep people from coming in

2017-08-09 12:19:03 UTC  

not to keep them in

2017-08-09 12:19:07 UTC  

<state security

2017-08-09 12:19:52 UTC  

Anyway it's not like the government and party are separated or 2 people @Timo)))

2017-08-09 12:20:02 UTC  

The Party and People are One

2017-08-09 12:20:06 UTC  

no it's not

2017-08-09 12:20:15 UTC  

I for sure am not a part of that kind of party

2017-08-09 12:20:16 UTC  

It's like self management

2017-08-09 12:20:29 UTC  

that type of party can die for all i care

2017-08-09 12:20:33 UTC  

it's not the people

2017-08-09 12:20:39 UTC  

Private security until you reach communism of course

2017-08-09 12:20:40 UTC  

:wink:

2017-08-09 12:20:59 UTC  

Private security is irrelevant in a socialist state

2017-08-09 12:21:08 UTC  

Because private corporations are illegal

2017-08-09 12:21:34 UTC  

Its the matter of founding your own family commune in a capitalist society

2017-08-09 12:22:15 UTC  

Communes can be capitalist you know

2017-08-09 12:22:45 UTC  

It's just where people collectively work together on the same project

2017-08-09 12:22:58 UTC  

What if someone in your family wants to escape your commune?

2017-08-09 12:23:02 UTC  

the party and the people are one, some 1984 type feel i get from that

2017-08-09 12:23:11 UTC  

@Valtiel shot on sight

2017-08-09 12:23:23 UTC  

shoot them for their own best will

2017-08-09 12:23:36 UTC  

Ah, correct answer. I would say rape them but that would be incest

2017-08-09 12:23:38 UTC  

Communes are bad

2017-08-09 12:23:43 UTC  

Benefit of the commune, greater good

2017-08-09 12:23:46 UTC  

Make it an example

2017-08-09 12:24:17 UTC  

Jk

2017-08-09 12:25:11 UTC  

Having a commune in a capitalist state is stupid though

2017-08-09 12:25:31 UTC  

It's leaving other people to suffer while your family gains

2017-08-09 12:25:41 UTC  

Not very socialist in my opinion

2017-08-09 12:25:53 UTC  

you can do volunteer work

2017-08-09 12:25:57 UTC  

no ones stopping you

2017-08-09 12:25:58 UTC  

One could say in fact, capitalist

2017-08-09 12:26:01 UTC  

Build a functional socialist commune, people will see the strive and follow by example and it will spread to the point of covering the entire state. That is how you get socialism without a violent revolution

2017-08-09 12:26:15 UTC  

Black people have communes, that's why many never leave the ghetto

2017-08-09 12:26:28 UTC  

That's not how it works because profit is to be made

2017-08-09 12:26:48 UTC  

Best to then spill blood for your utopia then?

2017-08-09 12:26:57 UTC  

Utopia?

2017-08-09 12:27:02 UTC  

If you can't convince people by setting a good example or debate your idea is shit

2017-08-09 12:27:21 UTC  

That's not how capitalism came to power

2017-08-09 12:27:29 UTC  

It came to power through a revolution

2017-08-09 12:27:48 UTC  

You always lose the communist people the moment you use the buzzword 'utopia' , this converation is doomed from now on