Message from @Valtiel

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2017-08-11 02:20:47 UTC  

“Come, come, whoever you are. Wanderer, worshiper, lover of leaving. It doesn't matter. Ours is not a caravan of despair. come, even if you have broken your vows a thousand times. Come, yet again , come , come.”

2017-08-11 02:20:55 UTC  

what is the "Protestantism of Islam"

2017-08-11 02:21:17 UTC  

It makes the perception of the world really easy. I can't lie on my choice being pragmatic.

2017-08-11 02:21:56 UTC  

"This silence, this moment, every moment, If it's genuinely inside you, brings what you need."

2017-08-11 02:22:28 UTC  

On the answer for above 'propaganda' issue, "Silence is the language of God, all else is poor translation."

2017-08-11 02:22:40 UTC  

@Deleted User Salafism, tries to return to the roots.

2017-08-11 02:22:50 UTC  

And they're responsible for terrorism.

2017-08-11 02:23:27 UTC  

How exactly did you equate protestantism to tradition

2017-08-11 02:23:35 UTC  

🤔

2017-08-11 02:23:38 UTC  

Now looking for a protestanism in Islam would be inaccurate, Islam never had an Aquinas nor Luther and this is basically the reason Muslim world is suffering today actually

2017-08-11 02:23:45 UTC  

I hope that answers your question

2017-08-11 02:24:19 UTC  

wew lad

2017-08-11 02:25:03 UTC  

Islam needs strict reforms for getting rid of the tribal rules and culture shaped around it

2017-08-11 02:26:18 UTC  

@Cottonlol wow this is pretty accurate actually

2017-08-11 02:26:34 UTC  

@Deleted User Protestantism tried to return to the roots by disapproving of all the novelties which came later.
Salafism aims for the same, it's official ideology of Saudi Arabia and the Islamic State.
But they're not ie Koranists, that's a different thing.

2017-08-11 02:26:42 UTC  

ME tribalism is barbaric as hell

2017-08-11 02:26:45 UTC  

Yep, rationality is a high trait we have emphasis upon

2017-08-11 02:27:02 UTC  

That includes criticizing the religion itself

2017-08-11 02:27:21 UTC  

Muhammad's companions were tribalists. Islam emerged in this culture.

2017-08-11 02:27:40 UTC  

@National Trotskyist >protestantism as traditionalist in any sense

2017-08-11 02:27:42 UTC  

Like you niggers fight each other's tribes and have a hajiab culture.

2017-08-11 02:27:51 UTC  

this is surely a troll response

2017-08-11 02:28:06 UTC  

Sure, the whole religion is a desert religion initially, hence my point of needing reforms

2017-08-11 02:28:35 UTC  

So you're a modern day Luther? Are you saying Muhammad was not the best example and you know better?

2017-08-11 02:28:42 UTC  

Haven't you seen protties bragging about how they're like the first xtians unlike the evil papists?

2017-08-11 02:29:01 UTC  

I'd argue closest to that came the Anabaptists who even lived in communes.

2017-08-11 02:29:50 UTC  

Reformists are arrogant and isolationist. Why leave us behind. We have to steer the ship away from danger, not escape in a lifeboat.

2017-08-11 02:29:50 UTC  

Christians used to be backward as hell and Islam was considered to be more sophisticated. What happened?

2017-08-11 02:30:11 UTC  

The culture at least

2017-08-11 02:30:27 UTC  

Brb babes

2017-08-11 02:30:37 UTC  

@Valtiel I don't even know how to respond to that.

2017-08-11 02:30:59 UTC  

Happa racial superiority is what granted the Rashiduns victory

2017-08-11 02:31:41 UTC  

@Deleted User like Muslims had hospitals and clean water and would bath. But Europe was stuck in the dark ages. With peasants dying from the plague

2017-08-11 02:31:45 UTC  

I wouldn't be too prideful. God often takes away what is easily given. Power shifts around a lot in Islamic world, always has.

2017-08-11 02:32:10 UTC  

@Valtiel This is a meme. Not sure what books you have been reading.

2017-08-11 02:32:25 UTC  

What part is the meme?

2017-08-11 02:33:31 UTC  

The hellenic world transformed the world and then so did the Romans, whose Empire didn't offically collapse until the 5th century. Do you think that all the infrastructure disappears over night? The 'dark ages' is a misleading term.

2017-08-11 02:33:59 UTC  

@Deleted User 15th century

2017-08-11 02:33:59 UTC  

@Valtiel We Wuz Kangz n Sheit but then da evil Mongols came and sacked Baghdad.

2017-08-11 02:34:39 UTC  

@Deleted User no shit. It took hundreds of years for Europe to go from Rome to Feudalism

2017-08-11 02:34:42 UTC  

@Deleted User That's correct. My mind is always in the Western Empire, my mistake. All praise to Constantinople.