Yet you just said that you do not recognise personal freedom, or natural rights.

@DessertBeagle Fair point about previous usage. The Germans largly rehabilitated old strategies and gave 'em a modern spin - that is indeed more accurate. Yes Germany lost. Doesn't maean that they had to loose. Doesn't mean that someone in the future won't do somrting simmilar and not manage to win. I see the point against the use of such methods based on making everyone nervous but as I said: the fact Adolf fucked up doesn't mean someone else won't succede.

@Deleted User Correct.

@Apollo'sJest fair enough, but we can play the 'what if' game all day

It's a false dichotomy.

@DessertBeagle What are we arguing over anyway at this point? We seem to agree don't we?

I don't think there's really anything of substance to disagree over honestly.

@DessertBeagle Yay! Friends!

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@Deleted User But yet, in a commune where no common person has any person freedom or rights, it makes it equivalent to a tyranical state which oppresses all common people.

Who said anything about a commune?

You advocate for anarchism, which ironically is almost the exact oppisate of what you advocate for.

@Deleted User Chopin mentioned he doesn't have any political goals. It seems to me that it's more 'bout philosophical enrichment of individuals n'shiiiiiiit.

@Apollo'sJest It seems so.

Pretty much. And why would I move to a commune? Which one? You're just making blanket assumptions to cater to your prejudices.

@Deleted User Well das what you get for labeling yourself an anarchist don't you? If you use the label people will assume things about you that are commonly associated with the label

Your ignorance is not my fault.

I thought that anarchists wanted to replace the state with communes?

Some might.

@Deleted User Das a profoundly antisocial position to take.

Okay...

@Deleted User "Your ignorance is not my fault." this one that is

@Deleted User If you called yourself a Nazi people will assume you don't like dem Juice...

To be fair, Chopin has conceeded that he is most interested in the situation at hand and opposing existing power structures.
We may think of him as shortsighted for not having a full blueprint for an anarchist world after the fall of existing power structures, but I think that's a tall order anyway

I'm moving towards individualism or maybe egoism. That's a kind of anarchist. I don't see the mystery or inconsistency.

@DessertBeagle Thank you.

@Deleted User "I am an anarcho egoist, but personal freedoms and rights need to be abolished"

My point is if you call yourself an anarchist people WILL assume that you are taking an explicitly political stance and you can't really blame them for it.

@Deleted User Have you even done a preliminary search about egoism?

I don't think he said personal freedoms and rights need to be abolished, but rather that he does not believe in their inherent existance

two different points of view

@Apollo'sJest That doesn't bother me, to be honest. I'm not trying to convince people of an ideology. But once I can communicate my ideas better I will work on my wording. So thanks for that point.

DessertBeagle gets it.

Yet by saying so, he imply's that he believes that they should not exist at all.

@Deleted User No he doesn't...

that they *do not* exist and that they *should not* exist are different

damn I've been here less than an hour. Is it always like this here? 👍

@DessertBeagle I'd say that 60% of the time it is just memes here, and 40% of the time it is actual debating and conversation.

neat I'll have to stick around a bit 👀

That's the nature of the beast. It's an open, public server where anyone can post. The only rules are no spam, CP or gore. It's like the wild west, but it works if you are willing to adapt.

what about normal p?