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2017-08-26 08:19:02 UTC  

Ethics is just made up emotional commitments.

2017-08-26 08:19:11 UTC  

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2017-08-26 08:19:12 UTC  

You strike me as a sociopath, lol.

2017-08-26 08:19:19 UTC  

I'm not.

2017-08-26 08:19:37 UTC  

But even if I was, what has that got to do with arguments?

2017-08-26 08:19:47 UTC  

Demonstrate something.

2017-08-26 08:20:44 UTC  

Demonstrate that ethics is just made up. If I have to demonstrate that they're real, which I'm aware is the postive claim here... Surely that's self-evident, no?

2017-08-26 08:21:04 UTC  

They're real because you feel it. If you don't feel it, I can't help you.

2017-08-26 08:21:23 UTC  

>They're real because you feel it.
Thanks Pastor

2017-08-26 08:21:50 UTC  

deez nuts

2017-08-26 08:21:51 UTC  

lol

2017-08-26 08:21:53 UTC  

lol lo

2017-08-26 08:22:04 UTC  

>hunger is just made up
Thanks nihilistic atheistic moral relativist fedora edgelord commie.

2017-08-26 08:22:28 UTC  

I mean

2017-08-26 08:23:05 UTC  

A certain amount of "common sense" is evolutionary due to human being pack animals

2017-08-26 08:23:09 UTC  

Hunger is a subjective expression of the need for an organism to consume energy to survive. Ethics is a modern invention.

2017-08-26 08:23:19 UTC  

It's entirely naturalistic in nature

2017-08-26 08:23:31 UTC  

So no ethcis in prehistorical humans then?

2017-08-26 08:23:40 UTC  

None even in classical times?

2017-08-26 08:23:48 UTC  

None in the middle ages? How recent is the concept?

2017-08-26 08:23:54 UTC  

Well, they had some cultural values, but they are not uniform.

2017-08-26 08:24:08 UTC  

I'd say the Greeks started it.

2017-08-26 08:24:10 UTC  

Studies on higher apes shows this is already present in their species to a certain extent

2017-08-26 08:24:21 UTC  

But not in clear continuation.

2017-08-26 08:24:23 UTC  

It's way older than homo sapiens

2017-08-26 08:24:33 UTC  

Yeah, it's way older.

2017-08-26 08:24:39 UTC  

As is hunger.

2017-08-26 08:24:48 UTC  

Even though the way we feel hunger has evolved over time.

2017-08-26 08:24:49 UTC  

There are many time since Greek idealism and now which were not ethical. Even 100 years ago there was hardly 'ethics'.

2017-08-26 08:25:05 UTC  

I think you're conflating ethics with social norms just a tad.

2017-08-26 08:25:16 UTC  

Well, define ethics.

2017-08-26 08:25:24 UTC  

It's just a social norm in my view.

2017-08-26 08:25:26 UTC  

Being nice n sheeit?

2017-08-26 08:25:34 UTC  

Not hurting others.

2017-08-26 08:25:41 UTC  

Caring for other people.

2017-08-26 08:25:49 UTC  

So where has humanity done that?

2017-08-26 08:25:53 UTC  

Fucking never.

2017-08-26 08:26:07 UTC  

All the time. But there are always the amoral and the immoral.

2017-08-26 08:26:12 UTC  

Always predators among us.

2017-08-26 08:26:15 UTC  

Predators and parasites.

2017-08-26 08:26:46 UTC  

I'm afraid it's not the exception.