Message from @National Trotskyist

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2017-08-26 21:13:48 UTC  

not enough boi

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2017-08-26 21:25:53 UTC  

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2017-08-26 21:26:48 UTC  

Wtf even is this server

2017-08-26 21:29:55 UTC  

Ok.......

2017-08-26 21:30:55 UTC  

So @Deleted User in what way do you think ML could be updated to fit a first world and modern day revolution? We're talking post ww2 here

2017-08-26 21:31:01 UTC  

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2017-08-26 21:35:24 UTC  

@Deleted User It depends on the kind of revolution. It must resemble a total transfer of power which resembled in the past. This would would a little different in the modern context, especially since its just not factories and land, it is also infrastructure that is connected and dependant globally. I think too much isolationism in this context would be fatal, but also there would need to be a fine balance with engaging in imperialist culture but not becoming infected with it. I mean, in terms of subsequent state building.

2017-08-26 21:36:16 UTC  

Interesting

2017-08-26 21:38:32 UTC  

Creating a very strong ideological framework that can penetrate through all other imperialist tendencies would be key. Propaganda and the seizing of idea space will make or break the continued success of compliance of the proletariat. If you look at modern ideology examples like radical islam, you can see it is possible to create strong ideological context that can succeed in whatever adverse conditions it is exposed to.

2017-08-26 21:39:09 UTC  

Memes are modern day propaganda

2017-08-26 21:40:19 UTC  

It is a only one component. At the end of the day people have to life with the idea space that is created, and memes only get you so far. A total worldview is needed.

2017-08-26 21:40:44 UTC  

@Deleted User There were numerous updates, this may interests you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sasattack/sandbox

Looks like M3W is the furthest xd.

2017-08-26 21:41:23 UTC  

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2017-08-26 21:43:55 UTC  

It is a gigantic task to theorise ML into the modern context, which is why I ultimately abandoned it.

2017-08-26 21:44:33 UTC  

Maybe not something one person can do?

2017-08-26 21:46:26 UTC  

No, one person can lead it, and this even seems to be the way theory develops, with one person doing the majority of idea forming. Again, this is the pragmatism of authoritarianism shining through.

2017-08-26 21:47:46 UTC  

Be clear though, revolution is everything. This is the first started point. If it is unrealistic then nothing else can follow. It is the first domino, and the hardest to achieve. After that momentum takes over.

2017-08-26 21:48:23 UTC  

When leftypol gave Prachandism as one of the choices of political ideologies board believes in I was like wtf is this

Unfortunately they gave away power just like the Vietnamese puppets who succeeded Khmer Rouge

2017-08-26 21:48:37 UTC  

Best Chad meme out there tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/351120780043485193/1503780144965-1.png

2017-08-26 21:49:07 UTC  

^ Lmao

2017-08-26 21:50:12 UTC  

Well, one person doing most of it. So that means I can have help from others 🤔

2017-08-26 21:51:43 UTC  

You should know.

2017-08-26 21:51:52 UTC  

Don't take too much advice from an Anarchist.

2017-08-26 21:52:13 UTC  

Yea I take everything you say with a grain of salt

2017-08-26 21:52:58 UTC  

But if I work with other MLs could we possibly improve the idea with us all working together?

2017-08-26 21:54:23 UTC  

Of course, but in my experience the dynamic of theory development tends to find a gravity in one person or a small group of persons.

2017-08-26 21:54:58 UTC  

>small group of persons
That's what I said

2017-08-26 21:56:16 UTC  

I think I can do this

2017-08-26 21:56:38 UTC  

Just take it one topic at a time

2017-08-26 21:58:43 UTC  

See you in 10-20 years.

2017-08-26 21:59:10 UTC  

Haha well I have time then

2017-08-26 22:02:20 UTC  

Give me a couple months

2017-08-26 22:08:12 UTC  

👀

2017-08-26 22:08:30 UTC  
2017-08-26 22:08:58 UTC  

Good luck, mate.

2017-08-26 22:08:58 UTC  

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2017-08-26 22:09:07 UTC  

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2017-08-26 22:09:21 UTC  

is this pic relevent to the dissussion at hand?

2017-08-26 22:09:36 UTC  

Yea it's Chopin irl

2017-08-26 22:11:13 UTC  

Hey, how did you get my tinder pic?